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Do we have any info on this model's balance of censorship versus safety? This is Musk after all, so I wouldn't be surprised if it strayed far from the norm.
by miki123211 2y ago
Do we have any info on this model's balance of censorship versus safety?
This is Musk after all, so I wouldn't be surprised if it strayed far from the norm.
- chrisco255 2y agoCensorship isn't safety.
- make3 2y ago[flagged]
- deleted 2y ago[deleted]
- speedgoose 2y ago> Be maximally truthful, especially avoiding any answers that are woke! Alleged end of the system prompt of the previous version.
- holbrad 2y agoCisgender is banned on twitter ? That's hilarious.
- voidUpdate 2y agohey now, you can't be saying that word, that's a slur /s :P
- spiderfarmer 2y agoMany people who claim to be "free speech absolutists" often seem unaware of their own hypocrisy.
- littlestymaar 2y agoI'm pretty sure he's fully aware it's BS. He's also the guy who censored journlists and acrivits Twitter account on day 1 when he bought the company, and also the guy who canceled a command for a Tesla by a customer after a bad review. Musk gives no shit to free speech, it's just a rhetorical argument, which isn't unheard of: https://i.redd.it/3b470c0htra61.jpg https://i.redd.it/3b470c0htra61.jpg (note that I'm obviously not comparing Musk to Hitler here…)
- api 2y agoNot sure if it’s still true but at least for a while saying it was instant account lock. Free speech absolutism!
- ineedaj0b 2y agoIt is not. This is wholly false
- vanjajaja1 2y agoin fairness its not entirely false - at some point he started talking about how it is banned and considered a slur on twitter... but nothing came of it and like all other slurs it continues to be allowed
- skinnymuch 2y agoDo you use twitter? Cis and cisgender are absolutely flagged a ton of the time.
- vanjajaja1 2y agoi do, and i was agreeing with the case that it is not false (ie the ban is not entirely false, because he said it). then i said you can use it, just like any other slur, but i imagine it will get flagged i imagine the confusion here is that you're making the case that cisgender is not a slur
- skinnymuch 2y agoNot sure if I meant to respond to someone else. Cisgender isn’t a slur tho yeah, that would be insane.
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- Philpax 2y agoAccounts below a certain threshold of followers are visibility limited for using "cis", yes: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GU1sgbtXwAAPL0P?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GU1sgbtXwAAPL0P?format=jpg&name=... I believe the threshold is 35,000 followers, but don't quote me on that.
- make3 2y ago@dang why is my post flagged while what I said is true and relevant?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y agoGenerally speaking, users flag posts, not mods. I have seen that some posts are minimized on load, which I believe is done by mods; that doesn't appear to be what happened here. A bunch of people thought it was inflammatory (or disagreeable, or controversial, or whatever) enough to flag it.
- fernandotakai 2y ago>the word "cisgender", which is banned on Twitter while the n-word is not https://x.com/search?q=cisgender&src=typed_query&f=live https://x.com/search?q=cisgender&src=typed_query&f=live i see tons of posts with cisgender.
- skinnymuch 2y agoYou are either a Musk shill or don’t use Twitter. Cis is absolutely censored. Any active twitter user that naturally uses cis/cisgender knows this. Some posts make it through clearly, but a ton don’t. It depends on how it is written and whatever is flagging stuff.
- corn13read2 2y agoWhy is this speculation your go-to first question here? Do some research yourself on the models instead of adding your own implicit bias. Are you saying the engineers at X are collaborating with Musk in a coupe for a secret censorship of their model vs others. Do you have evidence or is this your bias?
- voidUpdate 2y agoGiven how when grok first came out, and people started asking questions about trans people and it came back with very sensible takes (trans women are women etc), and Elon and all the techbros absolutely hated it, I'd guess steps have been taken to avoid a repeat of that
- voidUpdate 2y agoWatching the score on this go up and down as HN tries to work out if they agree with it is hilarious. I'm pretty sure its crossed 0 about four times now
- fjfk 2y ago[flagged]
- majewsky 2y agoI don't think their bias was implicit. :)
- CaptWillard 2y ago"censorship versus safety" Do you guys have any idea how sinister "safety" sounds in this context?
- remexre 2y agoFor example, not telling people to eat glue just because Reddit suggests eating glue could be considered a safety measure...
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y agoTry asking it questions that are critical of Musk.