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I don't understand what you mean. A TFR of 0.5-1 means that every generation is about 2-4 times smaller than the one which came before it. In what sense can tha

I don't understand what you mean. A TFR of 0.5-1 means that every generation is about 2-4 times smaller than the one which came before it. In what sense can that be or get us to a steady state?

toomuchtodo 2y ago
Society might have the will to move towards economic policies that would encourage a fertility rate closer to replacement rate as the global population halves. Today's politicians clearly don't, but 50-150 years from now, new folks will be in positions of power who might make it worth potential parents' time and effort. Unfortunately, if you can't convince women it's worth their one life to raise children "for the good of society" or whatever the messaging is, you're up a creek without a paddle and the situation is likely hopeless. Society should make them a very compelling offer (exceptionally robust support to be a parent), if it is willing and can, otherwise, prepare for the consequences of people having free will and self determination.
- SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
  Wouldn't it be better if a movement to promote natalism - "pronatalist", if you will - convinces politicians to address the problem now? After 150 years of population decline, we're going to have substantial secondary issues. (Who's taking care of the disproportionate number of elderly people?)
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  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    I think there are a lot of problem now to attend to, and there is only so much human time to go around, which is currently better spent taking care of humans here today and fixing the problems we have already incurred. Future humanity will need to figure out a way forward due to past humanity being reckless. There is a debt to be unwound, and it has to start somewhere. Here is a fine place to start. > (Who's taking care of the disproportionate number of elderly people?) Whomever is left at that point.

I don't understand what you mean. A TFR of 0.5-1 means that every generation is about 2-4 times smaller than the one which came before it. In what sense can that be or get us to a steady state?

toomuchtodo 2y ago

Society might have the will to move towards economic policies that would encourage a fertility rate closer to replacement rate as the global population halves. Today's politicians clearly don't, but 50-150 years from now, new folks will be in positions of power who might make it worth potential parents' time and effort. Unfortunately, if you can't convince women it's worth their one life to raise children "for the good of society" or whatever the messaging is, you're up a creek without a paddle and the situation is likely hopeless. Society should make them a very compelling offer (exceptionally robust support to be a parent), if it is willing and can, otherwise, prepare for the consequences of people having free will and self determination.

SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
Wouldn't it be better if a movement to promote natalism - "pronatalist", if you will - convinces politicians to address the problem now? After 150 years of population decline, we're going to have substantial secondary issues. (Who's taking care of the disproportionate number of elderly people?)
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- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  I think there are a lot of problem now to attend to, and there is only so much human time to go around, which is currently better spent taking care of humans here today and fixing the problems we have already incurred. Future humanity will need to figure out a way forward due to past humanity being reckless. There is a debt to be unwound, and it has to start somewhere. Here is a fine place to start. > (Who's taking care of the disproportionate number of elderly people?) Whomever is left at that point.