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How fast could this run in a modern CPU with a modern GPU?

by slig 2y ago

jsheard 2y ago
GPUs are almost irrelevant for VFX work at this scale due to the memory requirements. The render nodes used for Interstellar had 156GB of RAM, and a decade later the biggest GPUs still don't have that much memory (unless you count Macs I suppose but the existing software ecosystem is very CUDA-centric). Small VFX shops do typically render on GPUs nowadays, but the high end is still dominated by CPU rendering.
- pjmlp 2y ago
  As a matter of fact, Pixar render farm is mostly based on CPU rendering.
  - jsheard 2y ago
    That goes for all the biggest players - Pixar, WDAS, Dreamworks, ILM, WETA, Framestore... all do their final rendering on CPUs. Some of them have adopted a hybrid workflow where artists can use GPU rendering to quickly iterate on small slices of data though.
- lossolo 2y ago
  > The render nodes used for Interstellar had 156GB of RAM, and a decade later the biggest GPUs still don't have that much memory NVIDIA H200 GPU has 141 GB of memory, and the AMD Instinct MI300X GPU has 192 GB of HBM3 memory.
  - jsheard 2y ago
    I was thinking of their graphics cards which currently max out at 48GB, but true, their HPC accelerators do have a lot more memory now. In the case of Nvidia they would be a trade-off for rendering though since their HPC chips lack the raytracing acceleration hardware which their graphics chips have. Besides, in the current climate I don't think VFX companies would be eager to bid against AI companies for access to H100/H200s, the VFX companies don't have infinite venture capital goldrush money to burn...
KaiserPro 2y ago
Its a particle simulation, so a lot of it is memory management. I can't remember the actual size of the simulation in terms of number of particles, but it was using something like 2 150TB fileservers to store it on. With NVME and cheap ram, it would probably at the point where it'd be useful on a GPU.
0xf00ff00f 2y ago
There's a nice recreation on Shadertoy: https://www.shadertoy.com/view/lstSRS https://www.shadertoy.com/view/lstSRS No idea if it's doing the same simulation though.
- slig 2y ago
  So beautiful, thanks for sharing.

How fast could this run in a modern CPU with a modern GPU?

by slig 2y ago

How fast could this run in a modern CPU with a modern GPU?

GPUs are almost irrelevant for VFX work at this scale due to the memory requirements. The render nodes used for Interstellar had 156GB of RAM, and a decade later the biggest GPUs still don't have that much memory (unless you count Macs I suppose but the existing software ecosystem is very CUDA-centric). Small VFX shops do typically render on GPUs nowadays, but the high end is still dominated by CPU rendering.

pjmlp 2y ago
As a matter of fact, Pixar render farm is mostly based on CPU rendering.
- jsheard 2y ago
  That goes for all the biggest players - Pixar, WDAS, Dreamworks, ILM, WETA, Framestore... all do their final rendering on CPUs. Some of them have adopted a hybrid workflow where artists can use GPU rendering to quickly iterate on small slices of data though.
lossolo 2y ago
> The render nodes used for Interstellar had 156GB of RAM, and a decade later the biggest GPUs still don't have that much memory NVIDIA H200 GPU has 141 GB of memory, and the AMD Instinct MI300X GPU has 192 GB of HBM3 memory.
- jsheard 2y ago
  I was thinking of their graphics cards which currently max out at 48GB, but true, their HPC accelerators do have a lot more memory now. In the case of Nvidia they would be a trade-off for rendering though since their HPC chips lack the raytracing acceleration hardware which their graphics chips have. Besides, in the current climate I don't think VFX companies would be eager to bid against AI companies for access to H100/H200s, the VFX companies don't have infinite venture capital goldrush money to burn...

KaiserPro 2y ago

Its a particle simulation, so a lot of it is memory management. I can't remember the actual size of the simulation in terms of number of particles, but it was using something like 2 150TB fileservers to store it on. With NVME and cheap ram, it would probably at the point where it'd be useful on a GPU.

0xf00ff00f 2y ago

There's a nice recreation on Shadertoy: https://www.shadertoy.com/view/lstSRS https://www.shadertoy.com/view/lstSRS No idea if it's doing the same simulation though.

slig 2y ago
So beautiful, thanks for sharing.