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As far as flak, I think your point about album appreciation could be interesting if presented in a more constructive way. The tone of your comment comes across
by bezier-curve 2y ago
As far as flak, I think your point about album appreciation could be interesting if presented in a more constructive way. The tone of your comment comes across as somewhat condescending, which can make it harder for others to engage with the idea.
- a-french-anon 2y agoSadly, I don't really think the question at hand is complex enough to be more constructive than the single sentence I used. But let's try: could you reduce a movie like "Taxi Driver" to a single scene and keep all of its value? I categorically state "no", but you could probably with sitcoms-with-background-laugh-tracks ("probably", my experience with them isn't very extensive). Basically, some music is made to be digested in small, radio/club-sized pieces and I argue that most of it does so not to fulfill an artistic vision. There are some exceptions, using this opportunity to maximize "streamlining" (I mean, I listen to some Eurobeat, so I fully understand that) and St Exupery's famous "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away", but that's definitely not the rule. Also, people already drew pretty good comparisons to opera and other stuff that loses too much by being listened on a single track basis.
- avh02 2y agoand all those albums with filler "intro" and "intermission" tracks?
- a-french-anon 2y agoSure, that also counts. If it is truly filler (for your value of "truly" and "filler"), of course.
- bezier-curve 2y agoThere's a lot of cases where I've been offered up an artist's "greatest hits" or "latest hit" through an algorithm, and it got me curious enough to dig and discover their albums, and listen to them the way they probably intended. I think your comment is a narrow way to look at algorithmic suggestions, and it comes off elitist.
- a-french-anon 2y agoI was talking about music listening, which is a very different act from music discovery, in my opinion. Addendum: elitism may have a very double-plus-ungood connotation in the current year, but I've never heard a valid, factual argument against it; which is even funnier when you realize the kind of people conditioned to react this way to the word have a similar filter for "populism". It's basically one of the modern "witches" arguments.
- bezier-curve 2y agoTo clarify, my point is music listening is ultimately subjective, and there's no objective, "correct", way people can experience and appreciate art.
- a-french-anon 2y agoThat view itself is subjective and isn't shared by everybody.
- bezier-curve 2y agoAll comments on HN are subjective.