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They also said they didn’t take into account anything outside the board, because only Defcon had access to that data. It’s perfectly possible for Entropic to b
by Aeolun 2y ago
They also said they didn’t take into account anything outside the board, because only Defcon had access to that data.
It’s perfectly possible for Entropic to be calculating to a $100k total cost (for the board), while Defcon is calculating the cost for everything (case/lanyard, etc.), and gets to $160k for the entire project, then says they’re 60% over budget.
I imagine Entropic was discounting their bills to say within the 100K, while Defcon already felt they were over.
(Numbers made up)
- numpad0 2y agoInjection molds for that nice clear case can't be cheap too. Has four parts, clips, undercuts, and not tiny. They're not making that shell for under $100k total at any volume.
- jdnsndn 2y agoI didn't see the case, so this is speculation based in my knowledge with injection molding. A fairly simple mold costs 5-10k, a complex mold 10-20k. Since this is a limited production run, I would argue that they didn't need the highest tolerances. Thus my guess would be ~$50k for the molds and ~$5 for the parts.
- numpad0 2y agoI was mistaken about parts count, it's just front and back. But both sides of both halves seem polished to show components inside, and it's assembled by finger sized clips around the edge instead of bosses and screws. I thought those clips might need slide core things. Or have those come down in cost in the last few decades? https://old.reddit.com/r/Defcon/comments/1en7jxz/ https://old.reddit.com/r/Defcon/comments/1en7jxz/ https://twitter.com/defcon/status/1821968797609423223 https://twitter.com/defcon/status/1821968797609423223 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdZvg7JNmJ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdZvg7JNmJ8
- EricE 2y agoEntropic also pointed out that they made new molds to take their logo off the case. How much did that cost? Why not just pay Entropic with that money? The whole thing stinks...
- tptacek 2y agoThere was never any question as to whether DEF CON was capable of further funding Entropic. They fired Entropic, which mooted the question of how to find additional money for them.
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