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Did you read the whole thing? He said he prefers that, but wants the option to bypass it.

jmclnx 2y ago
No, when I saw that quote I bailed. But what is the point of have all those checks when you will bypass them anyway. It is like spending thousands for a house alarm but never turning the alarm on. It just adds needless complexity that will never get used.
- roughly 2y ago
  Because you don’t always bypass them. You bypass them knowingly and intentionally - you leave the burglar alarm off when your friend is coming by - but most of the time, you want the alarm and you want the choice.
talldayo 2y ago
Poor Gruber. I can't imagine owing my entire livelihood to the success of a closed platform and then deciding one day you disagree with it's development philosophy. I hope he makes his peace with it because lord knows neither rain nor shine will stop Apple from locking-down and removing features from MacOS.
- robenkleene 2y ago
  Isn't it the development philosophy itself that's evolving (i.e., not Gruber's opinion)? E.g., the linked post is about a change that isn't even been released yet? https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/08/07/mac-os-15-sequoia-gatekeeper https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/08/07/mac-os-15-sequo...
  - talldayo 2y ago
    I dunno, Gruber really ought to know better by now. I left MacOS myself years ago because I considered the depreciation of OpenGL to be the writing on the wall. Apple was beefing with companies like Nvidia for nothing other than the sake of petty conflict, and sabotaging public resources for profit and making everyone else suffer for it. As a user I was getting absolutely nothing out of their aggressive public profile and it made me ashamed to support a company that cared so little for their userbase. So I bought different computers. Gruber has been in this longer than I have, and clearly he can see the same stuff you and I can. If he was okay with Apple going guns-akimbo 10 years ago I don't see why he'd grow a conscience all of the sudden. Seems to me that the frogs notice the water boiling, now.
    - Kon5ole 2y ago
      >Seems to me that the frogs notice the water boiling, now. I think this is spot on. When even Gruber complains openly you know it's bad. See also DHH lately. Warren Buffet recently sold half his AAPL holdings. When he got them he mentioned the brand strength as the main reason. Maybe he too noticed the heat of the water?

No, when I saw that quote I bailed. But what is the point of have all those checks when you will bypass them anyway. It is like spending thousands for a house alarm but never turning the alarm on. It just adds needless complexity that will never get used.

roughly 2y ago
Because you don’t always bypass them. You bypass them knowingly and intentionally - you leave the burglar alarm off when your friend is coming by - but most of the time, you want the alarm and you want the choice.

talldayo 2y ago

Poor Gruber. I can't imagine owing my entire livelihood to the success of a closed platform and then deciding one day you disagree with it's development philosophy. I hope he makes his peace with it because lord knows neither rain nor shine will stop Apple from locking-down and removing features from MacOS.

robenkleene 2y ago
Isn't it the development philosophy itself that's evolving (i.e., not Gruber's opinion)? E.g., the linked post is about a change that isn't even been released yet? https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/08/07/mac-os-15-sequoia-gatekeeper https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/08/07/mac-os-15-sequo...
- talldayo 2y ago
  I dunno, Gruber really ought to know better by now. I left MacOS myself years ago because I considered the depreciation of OpenGL to be the writing on the wall. Apple was beefing with companies like Nvidia for nothing other than the sake of petty conflict, and sabotaging public resources for profit and making everyone else suffer for it. As a user I was getting absolutely nothing out of their aggressive public profile and it made me ashamed to support a company that cared so little for their userbase. So I bought different computers. Gruber has been in this longer than I have, and clearly he can see the same stuff you and I can. If he was okay with Apple going guns-akimbo 10 years ago I don't see why he'd grow a conscience all of the sudden. Seems to me that the frogs notice the water boiling, now.
  - Kon5ole 2y ago
    >Seems to me that the frogs notice the water boiling, now. I think this is spot on. When even Gruber complains openly you know it's bad. See also DHH lately. Warren Buffet recently sold half his AAPL holdings. When he got them he mentioned the brand strength as the main reason. Maybe he too noticed the heat of the water?