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The problem here is that you're on Tinder to determine this. That doesn't prove that most women aren't interested in kids in America.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2024/07/25/the-experiences-of-u-s-adults-who-dont-have-children/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2024/07/25/the-exp... https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/03/millennials-only-children/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/03/millennia... https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/among-young-adults-without-children-men-are-more-likely-than-women-to-say-they-want-to-be-parents-someday/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/among-you... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/women-children-study-1.7119845 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/women-children-study-1.711984... https://www.visionmonday.com/business/research-and-stats/article/more-young-women-are-saying-no-to-having-children/ https://www.visionmonday.com/business/research-and-stats/art... https://theharrispoll.com/briefs/birth-rates/ https://theharrispoll.com/briefs/birth-rates/ TLDR Freedom > kids. Educated, empowered women delay having kids and have less kids overall.
- 29athrowaway 2y ago
  Freedom to learn the language and customs of those who have more kids, who will then have more political representation and ultimately rule over you. But well, no need to care about your kids' future if you have no kids.
  - llamaimperative 2y ago
    I'm really surprised that you're having a bad time on Tinder and women don't seem to want to settle down with you. It's probably because they're awful people or whatever.
  - nick_ 2y ago
    Are you implying that educated white women should be having more kids so that they'll stop or slow the end of a white majority America?
    - 29athrowaway 2y ago
      Maybe I meant the people who like soccer instead of football (or viceversa). Why does everything have to be about race?
      - toomuchtodo 2y ago
        Because it was clear you meant replacement theory without saying it. > Freedom to learn the language and customs of those who have more kids, who will then have more political representation and ultimately rule over you.
        29athrowaway 2y ago
        No. Replacement theory is about the replacement of a specific group of people and for specific and intentional reasons which is not something I believe at all. But demographic changes do happen and the origins of the US is an example of that. The US was first inhabited by Native Americans.
        toomuchtodo 2y ago
        Then what are you worried about? Embrace the change and live a full life. You have nothing to lose, the world around you will change regardless, and we all die eventually. The fertility rate has collapsed even in Mexico City, for example. > In Mexico City, one of the world’s most populous metropolises, babies are becoming a rarity. > Official figures show that the average number of children expected to be born to a woman over her lifetime — the fertility rate — has collapsed to 0.96, from 1.34, in only five years. That fall matches an astonishing decline on a national and regional level: Latin America’s aging, slow-growing population is now similar to those in Europe and North America. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-08-07/latin-america-s-falling-fertility-rate-could-add-to-its-inequality https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-08-07/latin-... | https://archive.today/RFf3U https://archive.today/RFf3U
  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    I suggest therapy (without any snark and from a polite place) if the future scares you, change is inevitable. All races converge to US fertility rate eventually, immigrants after a single generation. We’re all racing to 0. Try to not stress about things you can’t control. Framing this issue as some sort of breeding competition is…unproductive, and does not give individual agency and self determination the due it deserves. https://ifstudies.org/blog/baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-the-most-among-minority-women https://ifstudies.org/blog/baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-...
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    - 29athrowaway 2y ago
      You call it breeding competition, I call it geopolitics and demographics, which is not a breeding competition or a conspiracy theory.
  - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
    I promise you, the rest of your life will be so much easier if you can become okay with people who are different from you. Morality aside, it's just not going to be a good outcome to spend your life mad about something that's inevitable.

toomuchtodo 2y ago

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2024/07/25/the-experiences-of-u-s-adults-who-dont-have-children/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2024/07/25/the-exp... https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/03/millennials-only-children/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/11/03/millennia... https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/among-young-adults-without-children-men-are-more-likely-than-women-to-say-they-want-to-be-parents-someday/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/15/among-you... https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/women-children-study-1.7119845 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/women-children-study-1.711984... https://www.visionmonday.com/business/research-and-stats/article/more-young-women-are-saying-no-to-having-children/ https://www.visionmonday.com/business/research-and-stats/art... https://theharrispoll.com/briefs/birth-rates/ https://theharrispoll.com/briefs/birth-rates/ TLDR Freedom > kids. Educated, empowered women delay having kids and have less kids overall.

29athrowaway 2y ago
Freedom to learn the language and customs of those who have more kids, who will then have more political representation and ultimately rule over you. But well, no need to care about your kids' future if you have no kids.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  I'm really surprised that you're having a bad time on Tinder and women don't seem to want to settle down with you. It's probably because they're awful people or whatever.
- nick_ 2y ago
  Are you implying that educated white women should be having more kids so that they'll stop or slow the end of a white majority America?
  - 29athrowaway 2y ago
    Maybe I meant the people who like soccer instead of football (or viceversa). Why does everything have to be about race?
    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      Because it was clear you meant replacement theory without saying it. > Freedom to learn the language and customs of those who have more kids, who will then have more political representation and ultimately rule over you.
      - 29athrowaway 2y ago
        No. Replacement theory is about the replacement of a specific group of people and for specific and intentional reasons which is not something I believe at all. But demographic changes do happen and the origins of the US is an example of that. The US was first inhabited by Native Americans.
        toomuchtodo 2y ago
        Then what are you worried about? Embrace the change and live a full life. You have nothing to lose, the world around you will change regardless, and we all die eventually. The fertility rate has collapsed even in Mexico City, for example. > In Mexico City, one of the world’s most populous metropolises, babies are becoming a rarity. > Official figures show that the average number of children expected to be born to a woman over her lifetime — the fertility rate — has collapsed to 0.96, from 1.34, in only five years. That fall matches an astonishing decline on a national and regional level: Latin America’s aging, slow-growing population is now similar to those in Europe and North America. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-08-07/latin-america-s-falling-fertility-rate-could-add-to-its-inequality https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-08-07/latin-... | https://archive.today/RFf3U https://archive.today/RFf3U
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  I suggest therapy (without any snark and from a polite place) if the future scares you, change is inevitable. All races converge to US fertility rate eventually, immigrants after a single generation. We’re all racing to 0. Try to not stress about things you can’t control. Framing this issue as some sort of breeding competition is…unproductive, and does not give individual agency and self determination the due it deserves. https://ifstudies.org/blog/baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-the-most-among-minority-women https://ifstudies.org/blog/baby-bust-fertility-is-declining-...
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  - 29athrowaway 2y ago
    You call it breeding competition, I call it geopolitics and demographics, which is not a breeding competition or a conspiracy theory.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  I promise you, the rest of your life will be so much easier if you can become okay with people who are different from you. Morality aside, it's just not going to be a good outcome to spend your life mad about something that's inevitable.