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And I thought I could be harsh in enforcing silly rules. Let the kid play modern games with his friends you monster.

by cut3 2y ago

Suppafly 2y ago
>And I thought I could be harsh in enforcing silly rules. Let the kid play modern games with his friends you monster. This, so much of fitting in with your generational peers is having shared frames of reference to whatever media you grow up with.
- stevekemp 2y ago
  I guess I should have explained more - he also plays minecraft on the xbox, he just chooses to play NES games with me. I think those two consoles are enough, but I've offered the switch when he finishes Mario. But I guess even outside the home he's been exposed to other consoles via his friends, and their parents. I'm certainly not holding him back and forcing him to play weird/old games alone!
  - jjulius 2y ago
    >I guess I should have explained more... Eh, I don't think you need to. The internet is crammed full of judgmental comments that people make based on a single sentence or two, often without any attempt at asking clarifying questions. People just generally need to take a breath and not assume the worst about someone just because they don't go immediately into a high level of detail about their personal lives in front of a bunch of strangers.
- pfannkuchen 2y ago
  Does anyone have any advice to avoid this? I don’t believe it is healthy to have one’s cultural center oriented around arbitrary mass media. Do I need to join some kind of religious cult? Serious question (except for the cult part).
  - __s 2y ago
    easy, don't let them get a switch until they get through the original NES Mario
  - al_borland 2y ago
    As long as the rest of world is accessing shared media, there is no way around this. Keeping these things from the kid will mean a lifetime of references and metaphors they don’t understand. In general I think it’s harder than it was 20 years ago. The monoculture is basically dead. Instead of everyone having the choice of the same 3 TV shows on Friday night, there is an endless number of options on streaming services or YouTube, not to mention games, Twitch, etc. However, having something will at least allow them to to have a connection with a peer group who was in the same niche, and other things have grown big enough to transcend some of that, like Mr Beast and Mark Rober for example. I think a lot of people, even outside the core audience have seen the videos and know who they are. This doesn’t need to be the center of culture, but awareness of it still helps round someone out. To touch on religion… In the US, even if someone isn’t a Christian, I think it is still extremely helpful to be aware of the stories and traditions of Christianity. It is such a huge part of the culture and there are references all over the place that would be missed without this knowledge. The only time these things wouldn’t be useful is, like you said, in some kind of small religious community they will never leave, or a cult.
  - Suppafly 2y ago
    Honestly I think you just let it happen organically. You don't have to push them towards or away from specific media, just be supportive as they want to approach things. If they come home asking to play minecraft, or whatever new trend is being talked about at school, let them. Or if you want to guide things a little bit, let them play as long as you are playing as well. People don't need 100% coverage of what's on trend for their generation to fit, but they do need some exposure. I'm sure we all remember the "my mom doesn't let me watch tv" kid from our youth that had trouble fitting in, but rarely remember which was the "I don't really like Power Rangers, but do like Ninja Turtles" kid because they still fit in.
- throw4847285 2y ago
  Every day I fear becoming the Dad from this Onion article. https://www.theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981 https://www.theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-...
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stevekemp 2y ago
He does! I guess I wasn't clear, he's got an XBox for minecraft and stuff, but I ignore it because I'm not interested in those games. So he plays that by himself, with his friends, or with his mom. I just happen to have a NES classic for myself, and that's what he chooses to play with me. I think having three consoles is crazy, but I have promised him the third when/if he completes Mario.
- deafpolygon 2y ago
  Minecraft is really great - I would stop ignoring it and play it with your kid. My two "non-gamer" daughters play it several times a week together. They have done so for nearly 10 years.
  - Aeolun 2y ago
    My son was ruined after we started using mods. The ones he sees on Youtube are all paid things on the MS store, but now he believes I can just magic them out of my hat. On the plus side, we have a great deal of fun playing hide and seek with the morph modpack. His friends all play minecraft on the Switch, but they don’t have mods so he thinks it boring.
    - theGnuMe 2y ago
      Don’t show him Roblox
      - evanmoran 2y ago
        Just curious if other people feel the same way? My kid is right on the edge of the Minecraft-Roblox divide and I don’t have a strong opinion either way (he’s almost 7)
        theGnuMe 2y ago
        Mixed bag. Lots of scammers as well. Also lots of tears.
nurettin 2y ago
I did that. I gave him a simple console from the 90s and a TI-86 programmable calculator when he was 6. Thankfully he mastered them before he was 9 and got exposed to python/minecraft. Now he can learn anything due to having been exposed to the basics.

And I thought I could be harsh in enforcing silly rules. Let the kid play modern games with his friends you monster.

by cut3 2y ago

And I thought I could be harsh in enforcing silly rules. Let the kid play modern games with his friends you monster.

>And I thought I could be harsh in enforcing silly rules. Let the kid play modern games with his friends you monster. This, so much of fitting in with your generational peers is having shared frames of reference to whatever media you grow up with.

stevekemp 2y ago
I guess I should have explained more - he also plays minecraft on the xbox, he just chooses to play NES games with me. I think those two consoles are enough, but I've offered the switch when he finishes Mario. But I guess even outside the home he's been exposed to other consoles via his friends, and their parents. I'm certainly not holding him back and forcing him to play weird/old games alone!
- jjulius 2y ago
  >I guess I should have explained more... Eh, I don't think you need to. The internet is crammed full of judgmental comments that people make based on a single sentence or two, often without any attempt at asking clarifying questions. People just generally need to take a breath and not assume the worst about someone just because they don't go immediately into a high level of detail about their personal lives in front of a bunch of strangers.
pfannkuchen 2y ago
Does anyone have any advice to avoid this? I don’t believe it is healthy to have one’s cultural center oriented around arbitrary mass media. Do I need to join some kind of religious cult? Serious question (except for the cult part).
- __s 2y ago
  easy, don't let them get a switch until they get through the original NES Mario
- al_borland 2y ago
  As long as the rest of world is accessing shared media, there is no way around this. Keeping these things from the kid will mean a lifetime of references and metaphors they don’t understand. In general I think it’s harder than it was 20 years ago. The monoculture is basically dead. Instead of everyone having the choice of the same 3 TV shows on Friday night, there is an endless number of options on streaming services or YouTube, not to mention games, Twitch, etc. However, having something will at least allow them to to have a connection with a peer group who was in the same niche, and other things have grown big enough to transcend some of that, like Mr Beast and Mark Rober for example. I think a lot of people, even outside the core audience have seen the videos and know who they are. This doesn’t need to be the center of culture, but awareness of it still helps round someone out. To touch on religion… In the US, even if someone isn’t a Christian, I think it is still extremely helpful to be aware of the stories and traditions of Christianity. It is such a huge part of the culture and there are references all over the place that would be missed without this knowledge. The only time these things wouldn’t be useful is, like you said, in some kind of small religious community they will never leave, or a cult.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  Honestly I think you just let it happen organically. You don't have to push them towards or away from specific media, just be supportive as they want to approach things. If they come home asking to play minecraft, or whatever new trend is being talked about at school, let them. Or if you want to guide things a little bit, let them play as long as you are playing as well. People don't need 100% coverage of what's on trend for their generation to fit, but they do need some exposure. I'm sure we all remember the "my mom doesn't let me watch tv" kid from our youth that had trouble fitting in, but rarely remember which was the "I don't really like Power Rangers, but do like Ninja Turtles" kid because they still fit in.
throw4847285 2y ago
Every day I fear becoming the Dad from this Onion article. https://www.theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981 https://www.theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-...
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stevekemp 2y ago

He does! I guess I wasn't clear, he's got an XBox for minecraft and stuff, but I ignore it because I'm not interested in those games. So he plays that by himself, with his friends, or with his mom. I just happen to have a NES classic for myself, and that's what he chooses to play with me. I think having three consoles is crazy, but I have promised him the third when/if he completes Mario.

deafpolygon 2y ago
Minecraft is really great - I would stop ignoring it and play it with your kid. My two "non-gamer" daughters play it several times a week together. They have done so for nearly 10 years.
- Aeolun 2y ago
  My son was ruined after we started using mods. The ones he sees on Youtube are all paid things on the MS store, but now he believes I can just magic them out of my hat. On the plus side, we have a great deal of fun playing hide and seek with the morph modpack. His friends all play minecraft on the Switch, but they don’t have mods so he thinks it boring.
  - theGnuMe 2y ago
    Don’t show him Roblox
    - evanmoran 2y ago
      Just curious if other people feel the same way? My kid is right on the edge of the Minecraft-Roblox divide and I don’t have a strong opinion either way (he’s almost 7)
      - theGnuMe 2y ago
        Mixed bag. Lots of scammers as well. Also lots of tears.

nurettin 2y ago

I did that. I gave him a simple console from the 90s and a TI-86 programmable calculator when he was 6. Thankfully he mastered them before he was 9 and got exposed to python/minecraft. Now he can learn anything due to having been exposed to the basics.