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The older I get, the less I want to live forever. I mean, hell, my knees have hurt in some fashion or another since I was 10. It's not gotten better, it's gotte

The older I get, the less I want to live forever. I mean, hell, my knees have hurt in some fashion or another since I was 10. It's not gotten better, it's gotten friends. ADHD... I can barely plan for today, let alone make sure I'm not destitute for the next billion years. Now then, if they could solve (and reverse) all the other things that come with aging (honestly of those things death scares me the least), I would reconsider my stance. But even the thought of living for another 100 years at where I am right now sounds like a pretty miserable existence.

afthonos 2y ago
The good news is that as far as I know, there is no plan to end death that doesn’t also involve ending aging. The bad news is that it might come too late for any of us talking here.
- falcolas 2y ago
  It's not just aging that's a problem. It's also issues we're born with (mental health, autoimmune disorders, and thousands of others), or issues inflicted upon us (back pain, cancer, etc). All of these, practically speaking, need to be solved to extend life in a way that's worth experiencing.
  - afthonos 2y ago
    Sure. And practically every one of these issues except for aging and death do have lots of people looking at them, and as someone with an autoimmune disorder that has multiplying available drugs, I can testify that things are getting better.
    - falcolas 2y ago
      We have seen some improvements for some diseases. But so many others, especially any mental health issues, are not seeing much progress from the "drown the brain in these chemicals" method of treatment. So yeah. I don't want to be a downer, but I'm not seeing what I would call enough movement. And it's slowing down even more (and those chemicals are becoming harder and harder to get sometimes) as pharma and hospitals focus on profit over health. Even "solved" problems (really, problems which can/could be managed) are becoming issues again thanks to profit seeking. See insulin. EDIT: So much for not wanting to be a downer.
imtringued 2y ago
The amount of people here that seemingly don't care about quality of life is shocking to me. What's the point of drawing out negative experiences to potentially infinity? One of the tricks that immortality plays to you, is that no matter how much you screw up, you still have an infinite lifespan remaining to fix everything, including the fuckups of an infinite lifespan (uncountable infinities/cantor's diagonal argument). For example, let's say your eyesight deteriorates every 100 years and there is a cure that will take 2 years of your salary to fix. Add this up until you spend most of your life maintaining your immortal body.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  > The amount of people here that seemingly don't care about quality of life is shocking to me I haven't seen this on here. Can you cite an example?

afthonos 2y ago

The good news is that as far as I know, there is no plan to end death that doesn’t also involve ending aging. The bad news is that it might come too late for any of us talking here.

falcolas 2y ago
It's not just aging that's a problem. It's also issues we're born with (mental health, autoimmune disorders, and thousands of others), or issues inflicted upon us (back pain, cancer, etc). All of these, practically speaking, need to be solved to extend life in a way that's worth experiencing.
- afthonos 2y ago
  Sure. And practically every one of these issues except for aging and death do have lots of people looking at them, and as someone with an autoimmune disorder that has multiplying available drugs, I can testify that things are getting better.
  - falcolas 2y ago
    We have seen some improvements for some diseases. But so many others, especially any mental health issues, are not seeing much progress from the "drown the brain in these chemicals" method of treatment. So yeah. I don't want to be a downer, but I'm not seeing what I would call enough movement. And it's slowing down even more (and those chemicals are becoming harder and harder to get sometimes) as pharma and hospitals focus on profit over health. Even "solved" problems (really, problems which can/could be managed) are becoming issues again thanks to profit seeking. See insulin. EDIT: So much for not wanting to be a downer.

imtringued 2y ago

The amount of people here that seemingly don't care about quality of life is shocking to me. What's the point of drawing out negative experiences to potentially infinity? One of the tricks that immortality plays to you, is that no matter how much you screw up, you still have an infinite lifespan remaining to fix everything, including the fuckups of an infinite lifespan (uncountable infinities/cantor's diagonal argument). For example, let's say your eyesight deteriorates every 100 years and there is a cure that will take 2 years of your salary to fix. Add this up until you spend most of your life maintaining your immortal body.

robertlagrant 2y ago
> The amount of people here that seemingly don't care about quality of life is shocking to me I haven't seen this on here. Can you cite an example?