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There _were_ tons of tech jobs. Much harder to jump ship nowadays since layoffs have flood the market with high skilled job seekers and borrowing money is no l
by dartos 2y ago
There _were_ tons of tech jobs.
Much harder to jump ship nowadays since layoffs have flood the market with high skilled job seekers and borrowing money is no longer free for tech firms.
Life is complicated, employees can be just as much locked in to their jobs at Google as most people are to their products.
- jay-barronville 2y agoExactly. I was about to respond with something similar, but you did it for me! Not only are folks getting laid off left and right, salaries have gone down significantly and it’s very difficult to secure a new job in this market (no matter your skills, experience, etc.).
- ndriscoll 2y agoThere are still tons of jobs. They might not pay as well, but "I need to provide for my kids" might mean you take a crappy IT job that pays 60k, not that you build global surveillance/propaganda systems to be used against them and their peers. This isn't the depression. And up until recently, there were tons of really good jobs. What's the excuse there? If you have kids, you're presumably a few years into your career. Do you not have savings? My oldest is 3 and I wouldn't really have to start worrying for years if I lost my job.
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoForgetting about pay, are those jobs intellectually stimulating? Do straight conventional E commerce compared to testing infrastructure for video conferencing software? A lot of the appeal of a FAANG is the interesting work you can do at one. The only thing better would be a less secure startup working on something really novel.
- ndriscoll 2y agoSo now instead of "I need to do it for my family to survive", it's "I enjoy building panopticons"?
- seanmcdirmid 2y agohmmm, hopefully you can find a job that does both? Feed the family and is something that is fun to do. If you are a social justice warrior, you might prioritize that instead. To each their own.
- vel0city 2y ago> I enjoy building panopticons > hopefully you can find a job that does both? Hopefully we quit building panopticons?
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoI mean, I build testing infrastructure for video conferencing software. I guess I can see how video conferencing can be misused, but my conscious is relatively clear. You are just doing the social justice warrior thing, which is great and all, but I've seen it before and it never seems very effective. Vote for political change if you want to see things really happen.
- vel0city 2y ago> testing infrastructure for video conferencing software There's lots of companies out there that aren't Meta/Alphabet/etc. that also do things like video conferencing software if that's your jam. Smaller companies like BigBlueButton, Whereby, and ClickMeeting; more mid-sized ones like and Zoho Meeting, and the larger players like Webex and GoToMeeting and what not. And this isn't an exhaustive list of non-FAANG video conferencing systems. Its not like the only "tech" (software?) jobs out there are small mom and pop e-commerce sites or FAANG companies.
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoThere are medium-sized profitable tech firms, but they are like the worst of both worlds: you have the politics of a FAANG with the pay of a mom/pop firm, and your work isn't going to be very interesting. I really liked working for a non-profit research lab for one year (YCR even!), but it didn't last.