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- cranberryturkey 2y ago...probably make it top of the internet too.
- asimpleusecase 2y ago[flagged]
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- MaxikCZ 2y agoThis is actually pretty neat.
- yesbut 2y agoYou all are comfortable just enabling your camera for some random site so it can capture your face?
- colejhudson 2y agoyes
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- xandrius 2y agoAs much as I enjoy neal's little games, I'm not going to be trying this one, unfortunately.
- thih9 2y agoPerhaps that's an idea for a next game: match people by "how much info are you willing to provide". Present options to pick a username, email, social media, live text, live audio stream, live video, health data from a smart watch, teenage diary, ... It already works in some way; e.g. even if one person has both a HN account and a Snapchat account, they would use these to talk to different people.
- fartsucker69 2y agomy match will get tmi
- boesboes 2y agoAlready exists, demo by some dutch(?) privacy expert on how much info he can get out of you and just from your picture. I showed it to a colleague from marketing as a 'look how bad up this is!' They asked 'cool, can we do that too?' sigh
- fragmede 2y ago[flagged]
- vzaliva 2y agoYou know, someone can also capture your face while you just walking on the street? Given, the different people require different levels of privacy.
- _the_inflator 2y agoYes, inverse profiling works this way. A group with known individuals communicates constantly with someone who ain't using FB or Insta. You still know this person quite well, easily identifiable, maybe lacking some information but more than needed. This is also why privacy has been a game over for decades. Ten years ago or so, friends boasted that they don't use Gmail due to privacy concerns but happily email folks with Gmail accounts. One group picture is sufficient, you can work from there.
- aaroninsf 2y agoOne pertinent difference is that a web property may correlate your captured biometric data with whatever they get out of your connection, making entity resolution much easier and more valuable. ELI5 when you visit online they have a handle on you.
- _the_inflator 2y agoYes, I had the same question popping up. On a meta-level, this is the essence of social engineering: creating a seemingly harmless and fun distraction to get what you may really want. "Consent to give me pictures of your face and movements" as a pop-up would probably spoil the fun a bit.
- archerx 2y agoThis site wants to share your cookies to at least 662 “venders” and they are being dishonest with the “legitimate interest” scam. The creator clearly does not care about nor respect their users/visitors.
- mandmandam 2y agoIt's so wild to me that people tolerate this. I just close the tab or 'reader' whenever I see that type of thing, but I know very few others who do the same.
- snorremd 2y agoI mean, if a website claims to have tens if not close to a hundred "legitimate interest" cookies I'm reasonably sure they are living of wildly invasive ad tracking. I immediately close these websites just as you do. It would be swell if more of the web was made by passionate people to share knowledge for free. I know this is a privileged attitude as creating content takes time which is not free. But some of the best web sites are the ones without monetisation. We need a better monetisation system for the web that is based on people paying for content instead of people being sold as user data.
- unsupp0rted 2y agoWhy worry? It only captures the eyes.
- ashkankiani 2y agoIt has to capture everything first to figure out where the eyes are...
- PKop 2y agoFalse
- darajava 2y agoWhy do you care? You likely give your entire life story to Google? What do you think he’s going to do with your face data?
- moralestapia 2y agoYes, I am.
- chuckSu 2y ago[dead]
- arendtio 2y agoNo, I just went straight to the HN comments after seeing it requires camera permissions ;-)
- jsyang00 2y agosure, have you ever gone outside? thousands of cameras everywhere in any populated place, so why not?
- muppetman 2y agoSure am. This site is a lot more trustworthy than the no doubt 100 cameras I walk past each day that capture my face without my permission.
- bun_terminator 2y agoSuure some random site that hijacks your back button, doesn't talk at all what it is and wants my camera permissions
- umeshram 2y agoFunny
- miguelxt 2y agoAnother hit from Neal. I wonder (and envy, in a good way) where does he gets the time to work and all this wonderful little games.
- amitlevy49 2y agoDoesn't he do this full time?
- ianbicking 2y agoBut there's no attempt to monetize anything... ... which is part of why everything seems so polished, they each express an idea without compromise, and when he's done he can just be done. Someone could make a pretty good museum exhibit from his site.
- omoikane 2y ago> But there's no attempt to monetize anything... Maybe for the pages you tried, but I see ads on these pages: https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ (bottom) https://neal.fun/perfect-circle/ https://neal.fun/perfect-circle/ (right) https://neal.fun/days-since-incident/ https://neal.fun/days-since-incident/ (bottom, near the end, above the "you may also like" section) The last one occasionally fails to show ads due to some javascript error (visible in the console). The same error was also observed on a few other pages with the "you may also like" footer, so my guess is that some ads were supposed to be visible on many pages, but were accidentally hidden due to some configuration issue.
- bemmu 2y agoIt’s my understanding that Infinite Craft alone is probably so popular that those ads actually bring in decent revenue. For comparison, at one point slither.io, which is another browser game (not his project) was bringing in $100k/day from one ad unit showed each time the player dies https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-slither-io-goes-viral-games-creator-scrambles-to-keep-up-1466195058 https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-slither-io-goes-viral-games-...
- lambdaba 2y agoCareful doing this as there's a risk of falling in love, as per this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall...
- latexr 2y agohttps://archive.ph/20240808081029/https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/11/style/modern-love-to-fall-in-love-with-anyone-do-this.html https://archive.ph/20240808081029/https://www.nytimes.com/20...
- gloosx 2y agothank you sire, I banished the authwall iframe, removed the gradient and made it scrollable only to realize the article was cut for public in the first place. I wonder how archive.ph got the full version automatically...
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- latexr 2y ago> I banished the authwall iframe, removed the gradient and made it scrollable only to realize the article was cut for public in the first place. If your browser has a Reader Mode, that’s a faster way to get to that scenario, no DOM manipulation needed. > I wonder how archive.ph got the full version automatically We have speculation but not certainties. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36060891 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36060891 Regardless, the fact it works is why it’s so used on HN.
- jimnotgym 2y agoI think love has to be a state that can be worked towards. We wonder the earth (with apps) looking for that perfect person, today. But did noone fall in love in the past, when you had to make do with people from your own village?
- petepete 2y agoThe name took me back to a video chat programme I remember using with my friends in the very early 2000s called Eyeball Chat.
- petargyurov 2y agoI remember that someone posted a very similar project here some time ago.
- namanyayg 2y agoYes, had a deja vu moment there. I guess it was a similar game by someone else.
- wonger_ 2y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38305787 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38305787
- eieio 2y agoI made Stranger Video (the linked item)! Neal's a friend of mine and I gave him a (small) hand with eyechat. We were originally going to collaborate more on eyechat but then One Million Checkboxes[1] blew up and I had to bow out [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40800869 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40800869
- namanyayg 2y agoI'd love to know more. Did he reach out to you? Was it the other way around? What's the difference in two's codebases, if any?
- eieio 2y agowe meet up on occasion to kick around ideas[1] - we're both in nyc and the 'people doing creative tech stuff in nyc' world is not that big. I think(?) we first met right after I made stranger video; we've batted around ideas about it for a while. Pretty sure this idea was from him! There's probably 0 overlap in the codebase - 100% (or close to it) of the code is from Neal (the only code I wrote for this was a very early prototype that cropped out just the eyes, instead of the bar you see now). I sent him a couple of snippets from my codebase early on but mostly just gave pointers on my tech stack / chatted about some of the problems I ran into. Given the size of Neal's audience the default scale for a project he launches is pretty big! Anyway, mostly wanted to clarify that the similarities between this and stranger video are intentional :) [1] this is where the idea for one million checkboxes actually came from!
- diimdeep 2y agoI would love to read about tech details behind this.
- YounoYouno 2y agoNice try, aint' getting my biometrics this time!
- tharakam 2y agoExactly! lol
- hazn 2y agoafter eyechatting with 5 people: * all people had brown eyes * all went for funny looks immediately * 3 of them were shocked and left
- sam_perez 2y agoClicking on the link without knowing what it was ahead of time was jarring, even not actively participating.
- kypro 2y agoHow is this not a torture method? Do neurotypicals think this is fun? I'm getting anxiety just thinking about it.
- pcranaway 2y agoTo the people worried about their data being sent to google or whatever (I'm not sure what they're actually worried about) -- the extraction of your eyes is done client side, using a seemingly very well made ML model running on Tensorflow which fits in under 15mb. The feed of your camera is transmitted "directly" to the person you're looking at (well, no, not really directly, it uses WebRTC, so your data passes through Neal's TURN server, but do you really think Neal wants to take care of properly storing your data and handing it off to advertisers?)
- BossingAround 2y agoSo even after this thought process, it comes down to "do you trust the author" (just like before it)... Not unreasonable to answer either way if you ask me.
- sdenton4 2y agoYeah, we should probably add a blockchain to the design so that we don't have to trust anyone.
- davedx 2y agoWhat, how do you know all this?
- dvaun 2y agoYour browser has developer tools which provide views into transmitted files, network requests, etc. You poke around and see how it is implemented using the tools.
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- namanyayg 2y agoIt's not working for me at all, did it get hugged to death? I just see a black screen with "Eyes from $LOCATION" under it.
- bot0047 2y agoCongrats! Your eyes are ours now. - them
- namanyayg 2y agoThanks for instilling a new fear in me today
- zikduruqe 2y ago"Got Eem" - Worldcoin *for those that aren't familiar with Worldcoin.... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/07/technology/worldcoin-iris-scans.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/07/technology/worldcoin-iris...
- namanyayg 2y agoI know it's in jest but does worldcoin work with any regular phone camera? I assumed it needs some sort of closeup high definition image
- latexr 2y agoI find these more relevant (and not paywalled). https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoin-cryptocurrency-biometrics-web3/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi... https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...
- IncreasePosts 2y agoWhat we really need for this is on-screen cameras, so you can actually look someone in the eye. Now, you only look them in the eye when you look away from them at the camera. And when you look them in the eye you're just looking at their mouth.
- jbullock35 2y agoWe’ve needed this – easy, direct eye contact – for quite a long time. I keep waiting for someone to develop it. I think that Apple has a relevant patent, but I don’t know how much content is in the patent, and I’ve never heard that Apple has done anything with it.
- shepherdjerred 2y agoApple uses it for its Eye Contact feature in FaceTime
- lupire 2y agoApple applies a filter to make fake eye contact.
- shepherdjerred 2y ago"filter" seems to downplay it https://9to5mac.com/2019/07/03/facetime-eye-contact-correction-in-ios-13-uses-arkit/ https://9to5mac.com/2019/07/03/facetime-eye-contact-correcti...
- 8n4vidtmkvmk 2y agoA guy on Youtube already built this... https://youtu.be/2AecAXinars?si=p42afAGJrUEsHedX https://youtu.be/2AecAXinars?si=p42afAGJrUEsHedX
- qingcharles 2y agoThey're slowly coming to market: https://www.androidauthority.com/under-display-selfie-camera-budget-phones-shootout-3192551/ https://www.androidauthority.com/under-display-selfie-camera...
- brikym 2y agoSo this is what it's like dating in the middle east.
- dbg31415 2y agoThis is great!
- dhruvagga 2y agoIs this the new Omegele where the conversations can't happen? haha
- BHSPitMonkey 2y agoIt's the eyebrow-inclination detection that really makes this a work of art. Being able to turn a serious stare into a serious aspect ratio is power I didn't know I needed.
- noman-land 2y agoFor the shy and curious, you can use OBS as a virtual webcam. This is a good option. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQHJX9rMp8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQHJX9rMp8. Guy keeps winking at me and then rolling his eyes when the video doesn't respond.
- drdrey 2y agothis is giving me massive anxiety
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