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Is there a trustworthy source for this claim¹ the post makes? It does not conform to what I see today, nor the plans I see for the future when it comes to gove

Is there a trustworthy source for this claim¹ the post makes? It does not conform to what I see today, nor the plans I see for the future when it comes to governments use of software. ¹ "" Thankfully the political systems of Europe have started to wise-up and stand-up to US BigTech hostility and have mandated that all software used for public services, government and state apparatus must be Libre open source code that is auditable, verifiable and under control of the people. ""

TZubiri 2y ago
Don't get me wrong this is some schizo shit, but I agree with the sentiment, and it in itself is a source for the claim. What would you expect a double blind trial measuring political bits in cybersecurity atoms?
- ThePowerOfFuet 2y ago
  >some schizo shit Please don't smear those with mental illness like this.
krageon 2y ago
It is not true, source: I work for an institution that would be impacted by such a ruling. There are requirements for sovereignty, but as usual people play fast and loose with the concept. Governments are not more competent than anyone else.
- harry_ord 2y ago
  The statement is so vague it can't be true anyway. What's Europe? The continent, the EU or one of the organisations that EU membership often come with?
  - krageon 2y ago
    I actually know what I'm talking about. You're free to disagree and "just ask questions", but I don't want to engage with tedium.
    - harry_ord 2y ago
      I was agreeing with you. I found the statement that 'the political systems of Europe' so vague it couldn't be true. It's why I listed several different definitions of Europe.
      - krageon 2y ago
        I misunderstood, I apologise
PaulHoule 2y ago
When the German open source enthusiasts and penny pinchers legislate government employees using open source office software the employee's union fights back.
- j-pb 2y ago
  Could you cite your sources? The only thing that I could find was that VerDi has a very good stance being PRO open-source software, and ANTI encryption and chat backdoors: ver.di setzt sich ein für die Nutzung und Förderung von Open-Source-Software durch den deutschen Staat, indem er in Verwaltung, Behörden und staatlichen Organisationen so weitgehend wie möglich Open-Source-Software nutzt. Zudem soll die Entwicklung von Open-Source-Software finanziell und institutionell langfristig gefördert werden. Dies gilt ebenso für die benötigte Hardware-Infrastruktur. Wenn der Staat Software programmiert oder in Auftrag gibt, muss diese Open Source sein. Dadurch macht der Staat sich unabhängig von einzelnen Anbietern und langfristig werden Kosten gespart, da weniger Gebühren für Lizenzen anfallen. https://www.verdi.de/ueber-uns/bundeskongress-2023/berichte/++co++4f0a162e-5923-11ee-a88e-001a4a16012a https://www.verdi.de/ueber-uns/bundeskongress-2023/berichte/...
jeffbee 2y ago
I've been hearing this claim half my life. Slashdot used to have a daily story of how "Germany switches to Linux" and it always turned out to be that Linux got installed on one server in the bureau of steam-cleaning municipal dumpsters in a village nobody had heard of before.

TZubiri 2y ago

Don't get me wrong this is some schizo shit, but I agree with the sentiment, and it in itself is a source for the claim. What would you expect a double blind trial measuring political bits in cybersecurity atoms?

ThePowerOfFuet 2y ago
>some schizo shit Please don't smear those with mental illness like this.

krageon 2y ago

It is not true, source: I work for an institution that would be impacted by such a ruling. There are requirements for sovereignty, but as usual people play fast and loose with the concept. Governments are not more competent than anyone else.

harry_ord 2y ago
The statement is so vague it can't be true anyway. What's Europe? The continent, the EU or one of the organisations that EU membership often come with?
- krageon 2y ago
  I actually know what I'm talking about. You're free to disagree and "just ask questions", but I don't want to engage with tedium.
  - harry_ord 2y ago
    I was agreeing with you. I found the statement that 'the political systems of Europe' so vague it couldn't be true. It's why I listed several different definitions of Europe.
    - krageon 2y ago
      I misunderstood, I apologise

PaulHoule 2y ago

When the German open source enthusiasts and penny pinchers legislate government employees using open source office software the employee's union fights back.

j-pb 2y ago
Could you cite your sources? The only thing that I could find was that VerDi has a very good stance being PRO open-source software, and ANTI encryption and chat backdoors: ver.di setzt sich ein für die Nutzung und Förderung von Open-Source-Software durch den deutschen Staat, indem er in Verwaltung, Behörden und staatlichen Organisationen so weitgehend wie möglich Open-Source-Software nutzt. Zudem soll die Entwicklung von Open-Source-Software finanziell und institutionell langfristig gefördert werden. Dies gilt ebenso für die benötigte Hardware-Infrastruktur. Wenn der Staat Software programmiert oder in Auftrag gibt, muss diese Open Source sein. Dadurch macht der Staat sich unabhängig von einzelnen Anbietern und langfristig werden Kosten gespart, da weniger Gebühren für Lizenzen anfallen. https://www.verdi.de/ueber-uns/bundeskongress-2023/berichte/++co++4f0a162e-5923-11ee-a88e-001a4a16012a https://www.verdi.de/ueber-uns/bundeskongress-2023/berichte/...

jeffbee 2y ago

I've been hearing this claim half my life. Slashdot used to have a daily story of how "Germany switches to Linux" and it always turned out to be that Linux got installed on one server in the bureau of steam-cleaning municipal dumpsters in a village nobody had heard of before.