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> If you don't like gardening, you obviously wouldn't be interested in having a robot do it for you Why? Do people who don't like gardening not like gardens or

> If you don't like gardening, you obviously wouldn't be interested in having a robot do it for you Why? Do people who don't like gardening not like gardens or fresh produce? I just don't see how you reached this conclusion.

constantcrying 2y ago
I gave a list of reasons for why people might light to do gardening. In that list zero of the points benefit from having a robot do it for you. Why do you just ask the most banal questions instead of reading my post and responding to the argument I made? >Do people who don't like gardening not like gardens or fresh produce? I just don't see how you reached this conclusion. Yes, if you don't ready post you don't know how I reached that conclusion. If you just like fresh produce go to a farmers market.
- naasking 2y ago
  Nothing you wrote in this or the original post implies that people who don't like gardening wouldn't want to have a garden on their own property managed by a robot.
  - constantcrying 2y ago
    Having a product for gardening and selling it to people who don't like gardening is genuinely retarded. With this robot you still have to do gardening, only somewhat less. If you don't like gardening why would you spend 2k on a robot doing it for you instead of buying the produce?
    - naasking 2y ago
      You seem to be struggling with the idea that someone might want the results of hard work without actually doing that hard work, especially if they can get those results by playing with something they do enjoy, like robotics. Let me know when that sinks in.
      - constantcrying 2y ago
        Are you aware of supermarkets? There you can buy food that others have produced for you, admission to a supermarket is usually free and food can be bought in minutes instead of produced over months. Is this your project? Why are you so emotional over it being a shit product?
        naasking 2y ago
        It might be difficult, but maybe strain your imagination to consider scenarios where people live remotely, off grid, or in areas with unreliable supply chains, or they might even live right next door to be more self-sufficient. Accepting that other people might have different values than you can be challenging, but I have confidence you can do it.
        rob 2y ago
        He's going to blow his mind when he learns I have two AeroGardens in my kitchen, but don't want to do any farming. I could just hop down to the grocery store to buy the same amount in minutes. I can't believe the company is still in business!
        nradov 2y ago
        If you live off grid in areas with unreliable supply chains then where do you get spare parts and technical support when the robot breaks?
        naasking 2y ago
        Farm bot is allegedly open source, so you have access to every part of the design. If you're building some to use off grid, you're a DIYer and are already relying on yourself for many things. You can also stock spare parts when you do the initial build. The initial build will require shipping parts to a location for pickup, but this is a rare event.
        bluGill 2y ago
        I want higher quality food than my local supermarket. Tomatoes are work to grow but what you can buy is awful. I wouldn't use this for wheat as I can't tell any difference.
James_K 2y ago
They have these things called farmers' markets where you can buy fresh produce and it's much cheaper than $4000. You could probably buy fresh produce for a whole year and not have it come to that total. A year's worth of food is likely more than the robot could produce in your lifetime, so the market is a much better deal.
- naasking 2y ago
  So in your mind, economics is the only value worth considering. So I suppose that entails that you were paid to write your reply to my comment? Why else would you bother engaging on this site if you're not getting some monetary deal out of it?
  - James_K 2y ago
    When it comes to buying things, I would say yes. I could buy an expensive robot to grow a small amount of fresh food for me, or I could buy the same fresh food for much cheaper from a farmer. The former has little appeal when the latter exists.
    - naasking 2y ago
      So you're not the target customer. Which is fine.
devjab 2y ago
I think this is a fairly valid point. From my own anecdotal perspective I don’t much like “gardening” but when we wanted to grow vegetables we did research enough to know that this product is basically a waste of money. If you want a self-watering system you’re going to go with that, and maybe even have some fish for cleaning. If you just want easy low maintenance vegetables you can build a raised bed and water it with a hose on evenings during a dry period. That’s basically all you need to do. I’ve removed a ton of weeds from between our tiles, I’ve removed exactly three from the raised bed. The watering takes like 30 seconds a few nights a week. The real trick is to plant something with a high output and no maintenance required like squash.
- naasking 2y ago
  I agree that the watering adapter is basically pointless when this thing is built on a raised bed. You can build the watering into the base of the bed with a simple water level sensor and let capillary action wick the water up to the roots. The gantry design is limited for sure, but extending it into a more independent system might be possible, and the software they wrote to manage crops could potentially be quite useful with a more general system. It seems like a final v1 for a "farm bot".

constantcrying 2y ago

I gave a list of reasons for why people might light to do gardening. In that list zero of the points benefit from having a robot do it for you. Why do you just ask the most banal questions instead of reading my post and responding to the argument I made? >Do people who don't like gardening not like gardens or fresh produce? I just don't see how you reached this conclusion. Yes, if you don't ready post you don't know how I reached that conclusion. If you just like fresh produce go to a farmers market.

naasking 2y ago
Nothing you wrote in this or the original post implies that people who don't like gardening wouldn't want to have a garden on their own property managed by a robot.
- constantcrying 2y ago
  Having a product for gardening and selling it to people who don't like gardening is genuinely retarded. With this robot you still have to do gardening, only somewhat less. If you don't like gardening why would you spend 2k on a robot doing it for you instead of buying the produce?
  - naasking 2y ago
    You seem to be struggling with the idea that someone might want the results of hard work without actually doing that hard work, especially if they can get those results by playing with something they do enjoy, like robotics. Let me know when that sinks in.
    - constantcrying 2y ago
      Are you aware of supermarkets? There you can buy food that others have produced for you, admission to a supermarket is usually free and food can be bought in minutes instead of produced over months. Is this your project? Why are you so emotional over it being a shit product?
      - naasking 2y ago
        It might be difficult, but maybe strain your imagination to consider scenarios where people live remotely, off grid, or in areas with unreliable supply chains, or they might even live right next door to be more self-sufficient. Accepting that other people might have different values than you can be challenging, but I have confidence you can do it.
        rob 2y ago
        He's going to blow his mind when he learns I have two AeroGardens in my kitchen, but don't want to do any farming. I could just hop down to the grocery store to buy the same amount in minutes. I can't believe the company is still in business!
        nradov 2y ago
        If you live off grid in areas with unreliable supply chains then where do you get spare parts and technical support when the robot breaks?
        naasking 2y ago
        Farm bot is allegedly open source, so you have access to every part of the design. If you're building some to use off grid, you're a DIYer and are already relying on yourself for many things. You can also stock spare parts when you do the initial build. The initial build will require shipping parts to a location for pickup, but this is a rare event.
      - bluGill 2y ago
        I want higher quality food than my local supermarket. Tomatoes are work to grow but what you can buy is awful. I wouldn't use this for wheat as I can't tell any difference.

James_K 2y ago

They have these things called farmers' markets where you can buy fresh produce and it's much cheaper than $4000. You could probably buy fresh produce for a whole year and not have it come to that total. A year's worth of food is likely more than the robot could produce in your lifetime, so the market is a much better deal.

naasking 2y ago
So in your mind, economics is the only value worth considering. So I suppose that entails that you were paid to write your reply to my comment? Why else would you bother engaging on this site if you're not getting some monetary deal out of it?
- James_K 2y ago
  When it comes to buying things, I would say yes. I could buy an expensive robot to grow a small amount of fresh food for me, or I could buy the same fresh food for much cheaper from a farmer. The former has little appeal when the latter exists.
  - naasking 2y ago
    So you're not the target customer. Which is fine.

devjab 2y ago

I think this is a fairly valid point. From my own anecdotal perspective I don’t much like “gardening” but when we wanted to grow vegetables we did research enough to know that this product is basically a waste of money. If you want a self-watering system you’re going to go with that, and maybe even have some fish for cleaning. If you just want easy low maintenance vegetables you can build a raised bed and water it with a hose on evenings during a dry period. That’s basically all you need to do. I’ve removed a ton of weeds from between our tiles, I’ve removed exactly three from the raised bed. The watering takes like 30 seconds a few nights a week. The real trick is to plant something with a high output and no maintenance required like squash.

naasking 2y ago
I agree that the watering adapter is basically pointless when this thing is built on a raised bed. You can build the watering into the base of the bed with a simple water level sensor and let capillary action wick the water up to the roots. The gantry design is limited for sure, but extending it into a more independent system might be possible, and the software they wrote to manage crops could potentially be quite useful with a more general system. It seems like a final v1 for a "farm bot".