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For FSD to be a net benefit, it only has to be better than an average driver. It's quite possible that FSD will be rather used by below average drivers (with ex

For FSD to be a net benefit, it only has to be better than an average driver. It's quite possible that FSD will be rather used by below average drivers (with excellent drivers opting to still drive themselves), further increasing the benefit.

1oooqooq 2y ago
that's a silly fallacy pushed by musk marketing. quit propagating it. if the best driver in the world dies because they used FSD, then fsd is the cause so it must be as good as the best driver in the world to have not killed that human. q.e.d.
hugh-avherald 2y ago
Unfortunately, below average drivers do not always have the self-awareness or financial means to opt in to a state-of-the-art vehicle.
smugma 2y ago
It’s also quite possible that worse than average drivers prefer to drive and better than average drivers prefer to use FSD, which might decrease overall safety. This could be due to Dunning-Kruger, age based trust of new things, socioeconomics, etc.
tw04 2y ago
Except in most scenarios another human can anticipate what even a bad driver is going to do. Meanwhile FSD still slams on the brakes when it sees a tree shadow moving across the road because it can't differentiate between a shadow and a real object. We are a LONG ways off from FSD being better than the average driver. Anyone saying otherwise is apparently living in the Bay Area or one of the places an influencer lives that Tesla tries to game the system, because it is trash everywhere else. It still can't handle navigating a road that has the option to continue straight or go around a curve which even a novice driver can navigate without pause.
dagw 2y ago
used by below average drivers (with excellent drivers opting to still drive themselves) How to I objectively test if I'm a good enough driver to be better off without FSD?

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For FSD to be a net benefit, it only has to be better than an average driver. It's quite possible that FSD will be rather used by below average drivers (with ex

by The_Colonel 2y ago

1oooqooq 2y ago
that's a silly fallacy pushed by musk marketing. quit propagating it. if the best driver in the world dies because they used FSD, then fsd is the cause so it must be as good as the best driver in the world to have not killed that human. q.e.d.
hugh-avherald 2y ago
Unfortunately, below average drivers do not always have the self-awareness or financial means to opt in to a state-of-the-art vehicle.
smugma 2y ago
It’s also quite possible that worse than average drivers prefer to drive and better than average drivers prefer to use FSD, which might decrease overall safety. This could be due to Dunning-Kruger, age based trust of new things, socioeconomics, etc.
tw04 2y ago
Except in most scenarios another human can anticipate what even a bad driver is going to do. Meanwhile FSD still slams on the brakes when it sees a tree shadow moving across the road because it can't differentiate between a shadow and a real object. We are a LONG ways off from FSD being better than the average driver. Anyone saying otherwise is apparently living in the Bay Area or one of the places an influencer lives that Tesla tries to game the system, because it is trash everywhere else. It still can't handle navigating a road that has the option to continue straight or go around a curve which even a novice driver can navigate without pause.
dagw 2y ago
used by below average drivers (with excellent drivers opting to still drive themselves) How to I objectively test if I'm a good enough driver to be better off without FSD?