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Parent poster doesn’t want to have to drink to socialize. And bar meets are just that. It’s actually a huge problem in society. Ever stream something or go to
by rjzzleep 2y ago
Parent poster doesn’t want to have to drink to socialize. And bar meets are just that. It’s actually a huge problem in society.
Ever stream something or go to the cinema ? What does it show you? You’re happy => you drink to celebrate. You’re sad => drink out of sorrow. You want to hang out with friends => you go for drinks. DEFCON for example perpetuates that same behavior.
Sure, one part is loss of community, but the other half is toxic social behavior that is perpetuated by Hollywood. The people that don’t like this but want to belong will perpetuate this cycle for fear of getting ostracized.
- nradov 2y agoIn most communities there's no longer much social stigma against going to a bar/pub and ordering non-alcoholic beverages. The latest non-alcoholic beers are actually pretty good. (I do understand that the environment itself can be difficult for recovering alcoholics.)
- HideousKojima 2y agoI used to go out not-drinking with my coworkers (I've been a teetotaler my entire life). The place we went to had free refills for sodas so I downed half a dozen glasses of Fanta while my coworkers were paying $3-$5 a beer. Seems ridiculous to me how much people pay for alcohol.
- throwup238 2y agoA bunch of places now have "mocktails" which are just cocktails without alcohol so you can one up your alcoholic friends by spending $3-5 per glass of sugar water.
- floren 2y agoVisit SF, you can easily spend $10 on a mocktail out here. Kinda makes sense, all the cost is in the labor and the cleaning, a shot of vodka is like $0.20
- oerpli 2y agoThe spirit in a decent cocktail is closer to ~$3-5.
- Scharkenberg 2y agoI would assume there is no vodka in a mocktail...
- lotsofpulp 2y agoSome portion of alcohol prices are a barrier to entry to create the desired crowd. You might not want to attract the type of person looking to get shitfaced for cheap. Usually, non alcoholic non tap water is not way cheaper, especially if it is a “mocktail”. Of course, some portion is also high rents. And I have never seen a restaurant or bar outside of Costco with free refills for anything other than tap water though.
- vel0city 2y agoLots of places around me have free refills on fountain soft drinks and tea. In fact, it is pretty rare for a restaurant to not have free refills on things like sodas. Something fancier like a craft lemonade or whatever wouldn't have free refills though. This is true for a lot of the places I travel to within the US as well.
- lotsofpulp 2y agoInteresting. I’m most familiar with west coast and northeast, and can’t say I have ever seen that.
- vel0city 2y agoI've been to Patchogue, Montreal, Toronto, Cleavland, Myrtle Beach, Rehoboth, Baltimore, Louisville, Indianapolis, Nashville, Kansas City, Houston, Austin, Taos, Denver, Chicago, and a few other cities in the past couple of years. The majority of restaurants I visited had free refills for fountain drinks. The biggest places that I went to that didn't have free refills were places like food stands and what not, but that's expected.
- watwut 2y agoBut if you have to pay an expensive entry into that space, you will naturally limit who will go there and how often. And I do not just means "excludes people who get shitfaced". I mean "excludes people who are conscious about spending money or simply do not have super high salaries".
- fragmede 2y agowhile there are clearly cash grabs by the industry, the money for drinks goes towards the bar's rent/staff, so going there and not spending any money doesn't help the establishment's continued existence. depending on the establishment, that may or may not be a concern.
- Apocryphon 2y agoWell, you can also go to the café.
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