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>That these people, those who have their daughter threatened to be re-muted by Apple, that they still insist on using Apple's hardware is a mystery to me. Well

>That these people, those who have their daughter threatened to be re-muted by Apple, that they still insist on using Apple's hardware is a mystery to me. Well off the top of my head, going on stories I've read in the past two months: The Apple app store is about 2-3x more profitable than the Android marketplace. The fragmentation of Android makes developing cool apps using new features a nightmare, as about 4% of all phones are using the most recent version of Android. The Android Marketplace has had problems with piracy and illegal app copying that aren't as bad on the Apple app store. Stories of people more willing to pay money for iOS apps. If you really can't understand why someone would prefer one development environment over another for reasons other than "freedom" (the irony of calling developing for the whims of a fickle, fast moving market supported by a corporation you like more than another corporation's market 'free' seems to be lost on you) then I don't think you can be reasoned with.

josteink 14y ago
So you say there is more money to be had on iOS. I'm sure that is nice, as long as the one ruler decides that you are permitted to operate there. I wonder how safe it feels doing working on a platform where you know that someone else, without any justification what so ever, can pull the rug under your business and say "so be it". You know, like we read about all the time with regard to iOS. Businesses dead because Apple declared them so. Nice. You seem to think that when I value Android over iOS, I do so because I prefer one corporate entity over another. That would be a false assumption. I value Android because the platform is open and will never own me. I know this because I have cloned the Android git-repo, built it and deployed the build on my phone. From open source code to a working platform which I can use. You will have to work very hard to convince me that this isn't open, that this isn't free and that somehow my preference for this platform is entirely corporate fanboying. If you somehow see that as "cannot be reasoned with", I think you may be in need of a mirror.
- bad_user 14y ago
  Even if you were unable to fetch Android's source code, as long as Android phones allow third-party sources for software packages (including straight download from a link), then Android as a platform remains a lot more open.
matwood 14y ago
The Apple app store is about 2-3x more profitable Just to drive that point home: But amongst all of the oohs and ahhs of the new products and updates, there was one particular announcement that sort of flew under the radar. According to Apple, it now has more than 400 million active credit card-linked iTunes accounts… At first glance, this may not seem like a very big deal. But let’s put this into some context. Paypal, arguably the most well-known digital payment provider, had somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 million accounts as of 2011. And only around 100 million of those were active. http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/14/most-overlooked-announcement/ http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/14/most-overlooked-anno...
no_more_death 14y ago
The factor you cite of 2-3x more profitable is enormous. Most of the "Tell HN" posts I have seen had a factor of about 30-40% more.

josteink 14y ago

So you say there is more money to be had on iOS. I'm sure that is nice, as long as the one ruler decides that you are permitted to operate there. I wonder how safe it feels doing working on a platform where you know that someone else, without any justification what so ever, can pull the rug under your business and say "so be it". You know, like we read about all the time with regard to iOS. Businesses dead because Apple declared them so. Nice. You seem to think that when I value Android over iOS, I do so because I prefer one corporate entity over another. That would be a false assumption. I value Android because the platform is open and will never own me. I know this because I have cloned the Android git-repo, built it and deployed the build on my phone. From open source code to a working platform which I can use. You will have to work very hard to convince me that this isn't open, that this isn't free and that somehow my preference for this platform is entirely corporate fanboying. If you somehow see that as "cannot be reasoned with", I think you may be in need of a mirror.

bad_user 14y ago
Even if you were unable to fetch Android's source code, as long as Android phones allow third-party sources for software packages (including straight download from a link), then Android as a platform remains a lot more open.

matwood 14y ago

The Apple app store is about 2-3x more profitable Just to drive that point home: But amongst all of the oohs and ahhs of the new products and updates, there was one particular announcement that sort of flew under the radar. According to Apple, it now has more than 400 million active credit card-linked iTunes accounts… At first glance, this may not seem like a very big deal. But let’s put this into some context. Paypal, arguably the most well-known digital payment provider, had somewhere in the neighborhood of 250 million accounts as of 2011. And only around 100 million of those were active. http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/14/most-overlooked-announcement/ http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/14/most-overlooked-anno...

no_more_death 14y ago

The factor you cite of 2-3x more profitable is enormous. Most of the "Tell HN" posts I have seen had a factor of about 30-40% more.