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Lots and lots of people don't use their own emails on the DSN information. Maybe we should add a requirement that the zone register sends some notification on

Lots and lots of people don't use their own emails on the DSN information. Maybe we should add a requirement that the zone register sends some notification on behalf of the DNS provider. That could work, at least on the TLD level.

nickburns 2y ago
Registrant contact information is maintained by the registrar. The failure of a Registered Name Holder[1] to furnish up-to-date contact information with its Registrar[2] may result in the forfeiture of rights[3] up to and including the suspension or cancellation of the registration itself.[4] Point being that, short of transfer Auth-Codes[5], a verification link sent to the registrant's email address by the DNS provider is the functional equivalent of nearly the most that a registrar may be required to do in order to contact and/or verify a registrant. [1] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ra-agreement-2009-05-21-en#1.8 https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ra-agreement-2009-05-2... [2] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ra-agreement-2009-05-21-en#1.9 https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ra-agreement-2009-05-2... [3] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/benefits-2013-09-16-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/benefits-2013-09-16-en [4] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registration-data-accurate-2023-11-02-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registration-data-accu... [5] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/auth-2013-05-03-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/auth-2013-05-03-en
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  The registar knows the person's email. But the DNS service often does not. So the only way the DNS service can get a notification to the domain owner is if it's forwarded by the registar.
  - nickburns 2y ago
    The registrant's email address is made part of the WHOIS directories, whether obfuscated by a privacy service or not. It's publicly accessible information in accordance with § 1.1(a)(i) and (a)(iv) of ICANN's stated Mission.[1] The DNS provider absolutely can send a notification to the registrant without having to 'go through' (meanining interact with) the registrar. Even a third-party privacy service merely exists as a notification broker. Any notification sent by the DNS provider would simply pass through onto the registrant directly. [1] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article1 https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#...

nickburns 2y ago

Registrant contact information is maintained by the registrar. The failure of a Registered Name Holder[1] to furnish up-to-date contact information with its Registrar[2] may result in the forfeiture of rights[3] up to and including the suspension or cancellation of the registration itself.[4] Point being that, short of transfer Auth-Codes[5], a verification link sent to the registrant's email address by the DNS provider is the functional equivalent of nearly the most that a registrar may be required to do in order to contact and/or verify a registrant. [1] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ra-agreement-2009-05-21-en#1.8 https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ra-agreement-2009-05-2... [2] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ra-agreement-2009-05-21-en#1.9 https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ra-agreement-2009-05-2... [3] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/benefits-2013-09-16-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/benefits-2013-09-16-en [4] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registration-data-accurate-2023-11-02-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/registration-data-accu... [5] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/auth-2013-05-03-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/auth-2013-05-03-en

marcosdumay 2y ago
The registar knows the person's email. But the DNS service often does not. So the only way the DNS service can get a notification to the domain owner is if it's forwarded by the registar.
- nickburns 2y ago
  The registrant's email address is made part of the WHOIS directories, whether obfuscated by a privacy service or not. It's publicly accessible information in accordance with § 1.1(a)(i) and (a)(iv) of ICANN's stated Mission.[1] The DNS provider absolutely can send a notification to the registrant without having to 'go through' (meanining interact with) the registrar. Even a third-party privacy service merely exists as a notification broker. Any notification sent by the DNS provider would simply pass through onto the registrant directly. [1] https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#article1 https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en/#...