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This seems like a dumb rule that's just going to increase airfares for everyone else as companies try to comply with this. Airlines are already required by law

This seems like a dumb rule that's just going to increase airfares for everyone else as companies try to comply with this. Airlines are already required by law to give a refund within 24 hours. If you booked a ticket that doesn't have a signed seating that's the fair class you chose and you get what you get. If you book a ticket with a signed seating and you don't see the seats that you want you have 24 hours to cancel. Otherwise just deal with it.

cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
It’s dumb because costs will be incurred by more than those that directly benefit from it? I’ve got bad news for you about how basically every business under the sun works.
jprete 2y ago
"Just deal with it" is usually not a good option for children. Some children are very independent, but in 2024 I think most are not.
- thegrim33 2y ago
  Well the solution in that case is to .. book adjoining seats. If you're the last person to book a flight and there's no adjoining seats, then choose a different flight. The flight couldn't have been that important to you if you're one of the last people reserving, you should be able to just book a different flight where you can reserve the appropriate seats.
  - spencerflem 2y ago
    Idk if you've flown recently, but you don't get to pick seats anymore without paying a fairly substantial fee.
    - bunderbunder 2y ago
      The article quotes $200 for a family of four.
      - spencerflem 2y ago
        $25/person/leg sounds about right, even more if you need layovers
  - dagw 2y ago
    The flight couldn't have been that important to you if you're one of the last people reserving If I'm booking a last minute flight for my whole family and don't have any flexibility in when I leave, it is almost certainly because it is Very Important that we're on that flight.
    - alistairSH 2y ago
      This. Families don't generally book tickets last minute unless it's a family emergency. At least, that's been my experience - vacations that involve long distance travel are planned months in advance, not days.
  - AnimalMuppet 2y ago
    In general, the closer to flight time that you book, the more expensive it is. And everybody knows that, so the closer to flight time they book, the more important it is to them.
- analog31 2y ago
  My kids are more independent than they were 20 years ago.
dataflow 2y ago
> If you booked a ticket that doesn't have a signed seating that's the fair class you chose and you get what you get. n.b. "a signed" -> assigned, "fair" -> fare What you're in effect saying is that young children & their parents traveling with them should be ineligible for the cheapest fare classes, i.e. you're advocating for what is effectively an extra tax on them. Is that the intention?
- joebob42 2y ago
  Well, the cheapest fair class doesn't include a features they want, which has a cost to the airline. That seems reasonable. If they are eligible and get to pick seats, then it's a tax on everyone else to support that.
- DiggyJohnson 2y ago
  Well, I think they're arguing that if you want to be guaranteed to sit next to your child, you need to pay whatever fee is required to select your own seat. That seems normal and mostly, even though I understand why this new policy exists as well. There's plenty of things parents have to pay for like this.
  - metabagel 2y ago
    > That seems normal It didn't use to be normal.
    - DiggyJohnson 2y ago
      What didn't?
      - dataflow 2y ago
        I believe they're referring to having to pay more to sit next to your children.
- elmerfud 2y ago
  I'm sorry I use voice to text and sometimes it spells the words wrong. Since you clearly understood what I meant apparently you like to shame people with disabilities that need to use accommodating features. Yes people who require additional features should pay for additional features. Just because it's an airline doesn't mean you get to aggregate expenses to other customers for the features you want. Would you be okay if overweight people automatically got first class for the same price point as the cheapest fare? Your lifestyle and that includes having children is not the burden of other people to finance.

cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago

It’s dumb because costs will be incurred by more than those that directly benefit from it? I’ve got bad news for you about how basically every business under the sun works.

jprete 2y ago

"Just deal with it" is usually not a good option for children. Some children are very independent, but in 2024 I think most are not.

thegrim33 2y ago
Well the solution in that case is to .. book adjoining seats. If you're the last person to book a flight and there's no adjoining seats, then choose a different flight. The flight couldn't have been that important to you if you're one of the last people reserving, you should be able to just book a different flight where you can reserve the appropriate seats.
- spencerflem 2y ago
  Idk if you've flown recently, but you don't get to pick seats anymore without paying a fairly substantial fee.
  - bunderbunder 2y ago
    The article quotes $200 for a family of four.
    - spencerflem 2y ago
      $25/person/leg sounds about right, even more if you need layovers
- dagw 2y ago
  The flight couldn't have been that important to you if you're one of the last people reserving If I'm booking a last minute flight for my whole family and don't have any flexibility in when I leave, it is almost certainly because it is Very Important that we're on that flight.
  - alistairSH 2y ago
    This. Families don't generally book tickets last minute unless it's a family emergency. At least, that's been my experience - vacations that involve long distance travel are planned months in advance, not days.
- AnimalMuppet 2y ago
  In general, the closer to flight time that you book, the more expensive it is. And everybody knows that, so the closer to flight time they book, the more important it is to them.
analog31 2y ago
My kids are more independent than they were 20 years ago.

dataflow 2y ago

> If you booked a ticket that doesn't have a signed seating that's the fair class you chose and you get what you get. n.b. "a signed" -> assigned, "fair" -> fare What you're in effect saying is that young children & their parents traveling with them should be ineligible for the cheapest fare classes, i.e. you're advocating for what is effectively an extra tax on them. Is that the intention?

joebob42 2y ago
Well, the cheapest fair class doesn't include a features they want, which has a cost to the airline. That seems reasonable. If they are eligible and get to pick seats, then it's a tax on everyone else to support that.
DiggyJohnson 2y ago
Well, I think they're arguing that if you want to be guaranteed to sit next to your child, you need to pay whatever fee is required to select your own seat. That seems normal and mostly, even though I understand why this new policy exists as well. There's plenty of things parents have to pay for like this.
- metabagel 2y ago
  > That seems normal It didn't use to be normal.
  - DiggyJohnson 2y ago
    What didn't?
    - dataflow 2y ago
      I believe they're referring to having to pay more to sit next to your children.
elmerfud 2y ago
I'm sorry I use voice to text and sometimes it spells the words wrong. Since you clearly understood what I meant apparently you like to shame people with disabilities that need to use accommodating features. Yes people who require additional features should pay for additional features. Just because it's an airline doesn't mean you get to aggregate expenses to other customers for the features you want. Would you be okay if overweight people automatically got first class for the same price point as the cheapest fare? Your lifestyle and that includes having children is not the burden of other people to finance.