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I don't think the question of whether you perceive red the same way as me is even remotely interesting to the vast majority of scientists (while it is very inte
by dekhn 2y ago
I don't think the question of whether you perceive red the same way as me is even remotely interesting to the vast majority of scientists (while it is very interesting to a subset of philosophers).
In terms of consciousness, so far the best we have are some indirect metrics; see the neural correlates of consciousness for some of the best scientific discussion. But as far as I can tell, most scientists simply treat consciousness as a phenomenon, and don't worry too much about the philosophical side.
Ultimately my point is: is there something mystical that is simply not addressable by science, and from the perspective of (most) modern scientists, nothing about the brain is mystical, it's just a bag of stuff that does some stuff.
- poikroequ 2y agoI gave you an example, qualia. I gave you another example, the philosophical zombie problem. The latter has real implications, how can we know whether or not a coma patient is conscious? There's new evidence to support the idea of quantum effects in the brain. Far from conclusive, but it does give a little credibility to the idea. https://youtu.be/xa2Kpkksf3k https://youtu.be/xa2Kpkksf3k There's also a hypothesis that the electromagnetic field produced by the brain could be the "carrier of conscious experience", which would at least solve the binding problem. But you're very hand wavy and simply disregard my examples. Instead, you throw around the word "mystical" without giving a clear definition, which makes it too easy for you to move the goal post. And then you simply refer to the brain as a "bag of stuff", which is a gross oversimplification.