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If Meta doesn't care for money, then I really don't understand what Facebook has devolved into. It used to be a chronological feed of what your friends are doin

If Meta doesn't care for money, then I really don't understand what Facebook has devolved into. It used to be a chronological feed of what your friends are doing. Now all I see is an infinite steam of anger-bait, thirst traps and ai-generated spam. How can it still be controlled by the same guy?

logicchains 2y ago
>Now all I see is an infinite steam of anger-bait, thirst traps and ai-generated spam. How can it still be controlled by the same guy? The stream isn't controlled by Zuck, it's controlled by AI, an AI trained to "give the people whatever they want" to maximise engagement. The more deep learning you put into a product, the harder it is to directly control the output.
- Imagesegmetanto 2y ago
  They can easily control the output. You just need a filter. They don't care about the output
  - mrweasel 2y ago
    They care a great deal about the output, but their priorities and goals are very different from that of their users. The same holds true for Google. It's not that Facebook could design and build social networking sites that aren't terrible for the health or their users and society, or that Google could build a better search engine/search engine UI. They absolutely can, but that's less profitable.
  - WithinReason 2y ago
    If Google can't solve the SEO problem what makes you think Facebook "just needs a filter"?
    - Imagesegmetanto 2y ago
      Im answering inside a context. Telling me that Facebook can't control its output because of AI / complexity, than thats just wrong.
      - WithinReason 2y ago
        Why doesn't Google have higher quality results? It's about just controlling the output too.
        Imagesegmetanto 2y ago
        No its a different thing or argument. If facebook can't 'control' the output because of AI or whatever as an argument, thats facebook specific. Can google control its output? Yes for censoring etc. but Google shows you external self indexed and self analyzed content, Facebook doesn't do that. It has logged in users using their tools to create content and Facebook uses their internal algo to show whatever they want to you.
- maximus-decimus 2y ago
  I find people's faith in the AI disturbing. I'm a Canadian who's never set foot in the U.S. or a striper bar, but for a long while it was intent on showing me ads for bikini bars in Florida or Hooters. Even if you assumed I loved titty bars, I'm not even in the right country! Plus, it showed me what I want so much I completely left the platform.
- Zambyte 2y ago
  Please do not use the term "AI" as a way to deflect responsibility. People use AI. The people who use it are responsible for its use.
- andrepd 2y ago
  > The stream isn't controlled by Zuck, it's controlled by AI The laziest possible excuse, one rung below "just following orders" even: the "it wasn't me, it was the machine I built" defence.

logicchains 2y ago

>Now all I see is an infinite steam of anger-bait, thirst traps and ai-generated spam. How can it still be controlled by the same guy? The stream isn't controlled by Zuck, it's controlled by AI, an AI trained to "give the people whatever they want" to maximise engagement. The more deep learning you put into a product, the harder it is to directly control the output.

Imagesegmetanto 2y ago
They can easily control the output. You just need a filter. They don't care about the output
- mrweasel 2y ago
  They care a great deal about the output, but their priorities and goals are very different from that of their users. The same holds true for Google. It's not that Facebook could design and build social networking sites that aren't terrible for the health or their users and society, or that Google could build a better search engine/search engine UI. They absolutely can, but that's less profitable.
- WithinReason 2y ago
  If Google can't solve the SEO problem what makes you think Facebook "just needs a filter"?
  - Imagesegmetanto 2y ago
    Im answering inside a context. Telling me that Facebook can't control its output because of AI / complexity, than thats just wrong.
    - WithinReason 2y ago
      Why doesn't Google have higher quality results? It's about just controlling the output too.
      - Imagesegmetanto 2y ago
        No its a different thing or argument. If facebook can't 'control' the output because of AI or whatever as an argument, thats facebook specific. Can google control its output? Yes for censoring etc. but Google shows you external self indexed and self analyzed content, Facebook doesn't do that. It has logged in users using their tools to create content and Facebook uses their internal algo to show whatever they want to you.
maximus-decimus 2y ago
I find people's faith in the AI disturbing. I'm a Canadian who's never set foot in the U.S. or a striper bar, but for a long while it was intent on showing me ads for bikini bars in Florida or Hooters. Even if you assumed I loved titty bars, I'm not even in the right country! Plus, it showed me what I want so much I completely left the platform.
Zambyte 2y ago
Please do not use the term "AI" as a way to deflect responsibility. People use AI. The people who use it are responsible for its use.
andrepd 2y ago
> The stream isn't controlled by Zuck, it's controlled by AI The laziest possible excuse, one rung below "just following orders" even: the "it wasn't me, it was the machine I built" defence.