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HN had a posting about "postmodern programming" a couple of days back, so I thought I would give it a try. Google found at least 10 pages of documents, Yahoo a

by russell 18y ago

HN had a posting about "postmodern programming" a couple of days back, so I thought I would give it a try. Google found at least 10 pages of documents, Yahoo a bunch, even answers.com found a couple. Cuil? Zip, Nada, zero. I guess I won't switch. EDIT: My bad. Apologies to Cuil and HN. I had a typo in my query. Cuil didn't catch it, but Google suggested the correct spelling when I gave it the typo.

vizard 18y ago
Umm I just tried that : http://www.cuil.com/search?q=%22postmodern+programming%22 http://www.cuil.com/search?q=%22postmodern+programming%22 It returned 516 results for me (when including quotes in query).
- schtog 18y ago
  Without them too.
gaius 18y ago
Live.com can hardly get any traffic and their search works. I had high hopes for Cuil but gave up when it became clear that their search results were simply bad or missing. They should have held a closed beta for 6 months.
- raghus 18y ago
  What's your reference for saying that live.com can hardly get any traffic? http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?ts_mode=lang&lang=en http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?ts_mode=lang&lang... has them at #4 (which seems unbelievable but definitely past the bar of very high traffic sites)
  - gaius 18y ago
    Look up the fraction of search traffic they get compared to Google (or even Yahoo) - and the ad revenue they can generate from it.
    - pmjordan 18y ago
      Plus they must get a decent amount of traffic from mistyped URLs in IE - I've ended up at live.com a couple of times while trying to test some XHTML/CSS/JS in IE.
  - bd 18y ago
    Isn't Live.com actually composed of gazillion sites? I think Alexa counts all subdomains together. On Wikipedia there are listed more than 50 subsites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Live http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Live With many of these being used directly from Microsoft desktop software, it wouldn't be so unbelievable for Live.com to be #4.
- tokenadult 18y ago
  I suppose each user has his own preferred torture-test search terms. For mine, Cuil has recently (but NOT at launch) returned a better set of results that does Live.com. But neither wows me enough to pull me away from Google.
blackvine 18y ago
try duckduckgo
- jonknee 18y ago
  Why? I already know about Wikipedia and Yahoo.
  - hhm 18y ago
    It has its own crawler, it only uses Yahoo when it can give you good results.

by russell 18y ago

vizard 18y ago

Umm I just tried that : http://www.cuil.com/search?q=%22postmodern+programming%22 http://www.cuil.com/search?q=%22postmodern+programming%22 It returned 516 results for me (when including quotes in query).

schtog 18y ago
Without them too.

gaius 18y ago

Live.com can hardly get any traffic and their search works. I had high hopes for Cuil but gave up when it became clear that their search results were simply bad or missing. They should have held a closed beta for 6 months.

raghus 18y ago
What's your reference for saying that live.com can hardly get any traffic? http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?ts_mode=lang&lang=en http://www.alexa.com/site/ds/top_sites?ts_mode=lang&lang... has them at #4 (which seems unbelievable but definitely past the bar of very high traffic sites)
- gaius 18y ago
  Look up the fraction of search traffic they get compared to Google (or even Yahoo) - and the ad revenue they can generate from it.
  - pmjordan 18y ago
    Plus they must get a decent amount of traffic from mistyped URLs in IE - I've ended up at live.com a couple of times while trying to test some XHTML/CSS/JS in IE.
- bd 18y ago
  Isn't Live.com actually composed of gazillion sites? I think Alexa counts all subdomains together. On Wikipedia there are listed more than 50 subsites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Live http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Live With many of these being used directly from Microsoft desktop software, it wouldn't be so unbelievable for Live.com to be #4.
tokenadult 18y ago
I suppose each user has his own preferred torture-test search terms. For mine, Cuil has recently (but NOT at launch) returned a better set of results that does Live.com. But neither wows me enough to pull me away from Google.

blackvine 18y ago

try duckduckgo

jonknee 18y ago
Why? I already know about Wikipedia and Yahoo.
- hhm 18y ago
  It has its own crawler, it only uses Yahoo when it can give you good results.