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It's neat tech, I wonder what the adoption curve will look like and what the price premium will be. TVs are so predominant in our lives that room layouts and f
by brk 2y ago
It's neat tech, I wonder what the adoption curve will look like and what the price premium will be.
TVs are so predominant in our lives that room layouts and furniture are often designed around their presence. For example, the main TV in our house sits in a sort of built-in entertainment center/cabinetry. Making it transparent would be of no benefit. Also, many times people are hiding set-top boxes or media servers (and cables) behind the TV. Now those things need an aesthetically pleasing place to live, and cable management becomes 100x more important.
I can see applications for these, but it is going to require designing around them for maximum benefit. That will slow the adoption curve, which slows the price drops, perhaps keeping them in a niche segment for a long time.
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- mdanger007 2y agoWhat if we could just put these displays were our windows are?
- wlesieutre 2y agoIf you only want to watch TV at nighttime or maybe when it's overcast, and don't mind your neighbors watching your TV
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoIn-window shade.
- wlesieutre 2y agoEven with a blackout shade behind it for TV mode, I have to wonder how long it would take for the sunlight to cook the panel
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoI can see it working for glass houses that need to occasionally need a TV (think really rich people with overzealous architects). The cooking problem is situational and not always an issue for every window. I would instead love E-shades to be a thing instead, I'm still waiting to press a button to make my windows go dark.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> would instead love E-shades to be a thing instead, I'm still waiting to press a button to make my windows go dark These exist. I’m considering putting smart film on my bathroom and home office windows.
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoI’ve only seen samples for sale, and any sort of large scale installation is “contact us, we might have something.” I’ll just stick with Lutron until suppliers get their act together.
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoI’m surprised Hunter Douglas hasn’t gotten into the game.
- darkwater 2y agoAny brand name to kick off a search?
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Any brand name to kick off a search? I’m still doing the research. Searching smart film or tint gets me lots of options.
- ssl-3 2y agoIf it's part of a window shade, then what advantage does transparency have?
- lostlogin 2y agoWatching the show backwards?!
- jedberg 2y agoI do that all the time. When I'm in the kitchen the only way I can see the TV is via the mirror in the breakfast room.
- defrost 2y agoAs long as you don't watch cheesy TV Detective dramas while you cook: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheKillerWasLeftHanded https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheKillerWasLeft...
- spinach 2y agoFlickering tvs in windows would make being outside in a place with buildings become like being on a webpage full of video ads.
- vunderba 2y agoThen you'd have ZERO natural lighting in your house. Far more realistic is using them in lieu of traditional "paintings" though outside of Samsung Frame - most of them have poor viewing angles and are glossy which destroys the illusion.
- wlesieutre 2y agoI can't imagine this catching on for personal use. It's a flashy toy for a marketing screen. If they try to convince home users that it's the next big thing they're going to have another 3D TV on their hands.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> TVs are so predominant in our lives that room layouts and furniture are often designed around their presence I hate this and had to fight my designer about hiding the TV. (We compromised on hiding cabling behind the wall, flush mounting and putting it in the basement.) That said, I don’t see it having a mass market.
- flir 2y ago> TVs are so predominant in our lives that room layouts and furniture are often designed around their presence. It's an altar, or less cynically a fireplace. > Also, many times people are hiding set-top boxes or media servers (and cables) behind the TV. Just have the TV in "off" mode show an image of the wall behind the TV - but without the junk ;)
- omgwtfbyobbq 2y agoManufacturers do that to some degree with their frame/gallery TVs, and I don't see those taking a lot of market share. If they can get the price below or close to normal LEDs, I could see it, but if they're high priced I think they'll stay in a niche.
- lostlogin 2y ago> It's an altar Per 1984, for the daily rage.
- rbanffy 2y agoIt's called Fox News now.
- teamspirit 2y agoExactly, so many homes are designed with at least one room in the house to be tv-centric. Maybe new constructions can taken better advantage of these tvs. It would be fascinating if the same device that caused designs to center around itself then, now shift that design to something else.
- b212 2y agoHow old are you? I’m in mid 30s and half of my friends do not own TVs. I’m in Europe. I’ve been using home cinema projector, I don’t see a point in having a TV as late millennial. I want to control what I’m watching and as dumb as the internet got in the last years tv is 100 times dumber. 15 years ago we at last had Discovery Channel or MTV.
- esperent 2y agoSame, a lot of my friends don't have tvs. But the houses are still often designed to have one. Probably 3/4s of my friends live in furnished rentals and those usually do have tvs, however.
- p1esk 2y agoTV is a big screen you watch Netflix on.
- robswc 2y agoI'm in 20s and don't know anyone _without_ a TV. A lot of people might not use them very much but I've never been in a house without one.
- Arrath 2y agoYeah I'll agree that anecdotally I know plenty of people without cable or the like, but they still have a TV for streaming/pirated media/games.
- SoftTalker 2y agoI have a TV, but it's just an HDMI display for a Roku.
- blackoil 2y ago223 million units are sold in 2023.
- beachy 2y agoMaybe you're an outlier with your projector. A projector is more fiddly than a TV to set up. You need both a smooth, blank light wall and also a place to perch your projector which is just the right distance away from said wall (based on the projector's throw) and at the correct height and ideally centered to the viewing area - and with power within reach.
- seanmcdirmid 2y agoI think it will be huge in advertising, for window displays and such.