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> don't overburden our servers Does this effectively mean DDoS protection that's free until you actually use it?

Terr_ 2y ago
Speaking as a bystander, a more-charitable option might be: "DDoS protection is free for targets which fit a generic risk-profile and are targeted randomly or only for small-scale spite." P.S.: In contrast, imagine a website dedicated to journalistic content about how {dictator} is a crook and a parasite that has made {country} weak and a joke to the rest of the world. If there's a regular nation-state level DDoS from nodes in {country}, Cloudflare might say: "Hey, uh, your situation is not normal anymore, and it's not exactly your fault be we are a business that needs to recoup costs..."
- Aeolun 2y ago
  > Hey, uh, your situation is not normal anymore, and it's not exactly your fault be we are a business that needs to recoup costs... In exactly none of the posts about these debacles did CloudFlare say anything of the sort. It’s always comic book villain levels of communication.
geodel 2y ago
Thats basically for everything. Do you think home insurance will pay if you burn down house every year. Or car insurance if you trash it few times a year. I see DDOS protection as kind of insurance for event happening once in a while, if it happens all the time one definitely needs something more than a free service.
- gjs4786 2y ago
  Yeah, but they aren't the ones, presumably, who are DDOSing their own site. Warning: Insurance is not going to pay if YOU burn down your home /// even a little bit ///!!!
  - Terr_ 2y ago
    "Insurance companies hate this one weird trick." That reminds me of an NPR piece [0] discussing how a worrying number of people seem to be getting wrong/illegal tax-advice from "influencers" on TikTok etc. I'm sure a similar thing with insurance fraud either has happened or will happen eventually. [0] https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197958760 https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197958760

Speaking as a bystander, a more-charitable option might be: "DDoS protection is free for targets which fit a generic risk-profile and are targeted randomly or only for small-scale spite." P.S.: In contrast, imagine a website dedicated to journalistic content about how {dictator} is a crook and a parasite that has made {country} weak and a joke to the rest of the world. If there's a regular nation-state level DDoS from nodes in {country}, Cloudflare might say: "Hey, uh, your situation is not normal anymore, and it's not exactly your fault be we are a business that needs to recoup costs..."

Aeolun 2y ago
> Hey, uh, your situation is not normal anymore, and it's not exactly your fault be we are a business that needs to recoup costs... In exactly none of the posts about these debacles did CloudFlare say anything of the sort. It’s always comic book villain levels of communication.

geodel 2y ago

Thats basically for everything. Do you think home insurance will pay if you burn down house every year. Or car insurance if you trash it few times a year. I see DDOS protection as kind of insurance for event happening once in a while, if it happens all the time one definitely needs something more than a free service.

gjs4786 2y ago
Yeah, but they aren't the ones, presumably, who are DDOSing their own site. Warning: Insurance is not going to pay if YOU burn down your home /// even a little bit ///!!!
- Terr_ 2y ago
  "Insurance companies hate this one weird trick." That reminds me of an NPR piece [0] discussing how a worrying number of people seem to be getting wrong/illegal tax-advice from "influencers" on TikTok etc. I'm sure a similar thing with insurance fraud either has happened or will happen eventually. [0] https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197958760 https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1197958760