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I'm curious on why European people allow such heavy regulation. They really think that the Europe can enjoy their prosperity with little innovation for years to

I'm curious on why European people allow such heavy regulation. They really think that the Europe can enjoy their prosperity with little innovation for years to come?

jokethrowaway 2y ago
There are too many layers of government. We have no way to influence what our leaders do in our own governments. Go figure how much our representative in the EU parliament will be able to represent the will of the people. Ask anyone in EU who is their country representative. They won't be able to tell you. Heck, ask who the president of the EU commission is. Nobody will be able to tell you and she's been ruining our lives for 5 years already. MEP are just partying with the lobbyist in Bruxelles and challenging each other who can get the bigger bribe.
- hcfman 2y ago
  Here here. Well said!
  - hcfman 2y ago
    And Ursula wants a never ending war for the next few generations. She loves war. No money left for innovation or for fighting climate change, which is going to be very expensive.
solenoid0937 2y ago
I agree -- these comments are bizarre to me. Technology is the single biggest predictor of QoL in human history. You can only miss out on so many Industrial Revolutions before you begin to lose power (economic, military, financial, social) and fade into irrelevancy. That will certainly hurt QoL more than any short-term gain from preventing Memoji AI from existing in your region, or strangling your next AI startup in the cradle.
- voiceblue 2y ago
  The comments here seem ignorant of how regulations in the EU have become and what the dynamic is. Regulation is being lionized [0] as a political badge of honor, and as TFA shows, things are getting ridiculous: it is not enough that you can a) not use facebook, b) pay for it, or c) consent to let them use your data -- you MUST have d) use facebook for free without letting them use your data. In other words, socialist values must be upheld by corporations, now everyone must be able to avail of your product at no cost, to be subsidized by the wealthy, which in this case is the corporation itself! Of course businesses are just going to stop operating in this environment! The comments here seem blind to this simple calculus. Then they will say, "nothing of value was lost": then think who is the arbitrator of value here? It is clearly not the consumer*, but the consumer's nanny. Was something of value lost in that philosophy? No? Perhaps China and North Korea are not so bad, then. [0] https://www.wsj.com/tech/apple-iphone-15-usb-c-eu-malta-4240a5b3 https://www.wsj.com/tech/apple-iphone-15-usb-c-eu-malta-4240... * Consumers vote with their wallet and their feet when it comes to products and establishments
hcfman 2y ago
Well. The laws are made up by a non elected commission. And these people don’t give a shit about what the people think. Governments that don’t toe the line to what the commission want get pressured into ultimately complying.
- ttepasse 2y ago
  The bills are voted in the law by the democratically elected Members of the European Parliament and the democratically elected governments in the Council of the European Union. (And the Commission itself often gets its mandate for writing bills from the European Parliament, the Council of the EU or the European Council.)

I'm curious on why European people allow such heavy regulation. They really think that the Europe can enjoy their prosperity with little innovation for years to come?

jokethrowaway 2y ago

There are too many layers of government. We have no way to influence what our leaders do in our own governments. Go figure how much our representative in the EU parliament will be able to represent the will of the people. Ask anyone in EU who is their country representative. They won't be able to tell you. Heck, ask who the president of the EU commission is. Nobody will be able to tell you and she's been ruining our lives for 5 years already. MEP are just partying with the lobbyist in Bruxelles and challenging each other who can get the bigger bribe.

hcfman 2y ago
Here here. Well said!
- hcfman 2y ago
  And Ursula wants a never ending war for the next few generations. She loves war. No money left for innovation or for fighting climate change, which is going to be very expensive.

solenoid0937 2y ago

I agree -- these comments are bizarre to me. Technology is the single biggest predictor of QoL in human history. You can only miss out on so many Industrial Revolutions before you begin to lose power (economic, military, financial, social) and fade into irrelevancy. That will certainly hurt QoL more than any short-term gain from preventing Memoji AI from existing in your region, or strangling your next AI startup in the cradle.

voiceblue 2y ago
The comments here seem ignorant of how regulations in the EU have become and what the dynamic is. Regulation is being lionized [0] as a political badge of honor, and as TFA shows, things are getting ridiculous: it is not enough that you can a) not use facebook, b) pay for it, or c) consent to let them use your data -- you MUST have d) use facebook for free without letting them use your data. In other words, socialist values must be upheld by corporations, now everyone must be able to avail of your product at no cost, to be subsidized by the wealthy, which in this case is the corporation itself! Of course businesses are just going to stop operating in this environment! The comments here seem blind to this simple calculus. Then they will say, "nothing of value was lost": then think who is the arbitrator of value here? It is clearly not the consumer*, but the consumer's nanny. Was something of value lost in that philosophy? No? Perhaps China and North Korea are not so bad, then. [0] https://www.wsj.com/tech/apple-iphone-15-usb-c-eu-malta-4240a5b3 https://www.wsj.com/tech/apple-iphone-15-usb-c-eu-malta-4240... * Consumers vote with their wallet and their feet when it comes to products and establishments

hcfman 2y ago

Well. The laws are made up by a non elected commission. And these people don’t give a shit about what the people think. Governments that don’t toe the line to what the commission want get pressured into ultimately complying.

ttepasse 2y ago
The bills are voted in the law by the democratically elected Members of the European Parliament and the democratically elected governments in the Council of the European Union. (And the Commission itself often gets its mandate for writing bills from the European Parliament, the Council of the EU or the European Council.)