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No, but the EU and the citizens thereof should then accept that Meta or other similar companies in similar situations can't operate within the EU. The EU regul

No, but the EU and the citizens thereof should then accept that Meta or other similar companies in similar situations can't operate within the EU. The EU regulators and select HN users might be okay with that, but EU citizens on average probably won't be.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> No, but the EU and the citizens thereof should then accept that Meta or other similar companies in similar situations can't operate within the EU More pointedly, that they can't be built in or run from the EU.
- account42 2y ago
  ... and can't do business in the EU.
ktosobcy 2y ago
> No, but the EU and the citizens thereof should then accept that Meta or other similar companies in similar situations can't operate within the EU. I wouldn't mind if FB left...
- lolinder 2y ago
  That's why I said this: > The EU regulators and select HN users might be okay with that
- uncanneyvalley 2y ago
  WhatsApp though?
  - madmask 2y ago
    Telegram is basically the same
  - ktosobcy 2y ago
    There is signal/telegram/line/whatever. Though FB should have never been allowed to buy WhatsApp and Instagram... (same for Google buying YouTube…) Besides void would be filled sooner or later with something, hopefully something interoperable (XMPP maybe?)
  - account42 2y ago
    Yes? No company should be allowed control over such a large portion of private communication.
sensanaty 2y ago
Meta should've been nuked when Cambridge Analytica happened; the fact that US lawmakers did nothing after that is a complete joke. Zucc should be in jail alongside every other piece of shit who thinks it's their right to mass-harvest every single person's personal data indiscriminately for profit.
- dnissley 2y ago
  The FTC fined Facebook 5 billion dollars and required new safeguards and audits around sharing of user data: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2019/07/ftc-imposes-5-billion-penalty-sweeping-new-privacy-restrictions-facebook https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2019/07/...
2muchcoffeeman 2y ago
You know what they say: Only old people use Facebook. All the younger people I know are on Instagram (yes Meta owns that). But another social network will take its place like it always has. I’m pretty sure Meta knows this since they also own WhatsApp. If FB dies, we’ll all be fine.
account42 2y ago
Only if "companies in similar situations" means companies that have been built around violating users' basic rights.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> No, but the EU and the citizens thereof should then accept that Meta or other similar companies in similar situations can't operate within the EU More pointedly, that they can't be built in or run from the EU.

account42 2y ago
... and can't do business in the EU.

ktosobcy 2y ago

> No, but the EU and the citizens thereof should then accept that Meta or other similar companies in similar situations can't operate within the EU. I wouldn't mind if FB left...

lolinder 2y ago
That's why I said this: > The EU regulators and select HN users might be okay with that
uncanneyvalley 2y ago
WhatsApp though?
- madmask 2y ago
  Telegram is basically the same
- ktosobcy 2y ago
  There is signal/telegram/line/whatever. Though FB should have never been allowed to buy WhatsApp and Instagram... (same for Google buying YouTube…) Besides void would be filled sooner or later with something, hopefully something interoperable (XMPP maybe?)
- account42 2y ago
  Yes? No company should be allowed control over such a large portion of private communication.

sensanaty 2y ago

Meta should've been nuked when Cambridge Analytica happened; the fact that US lawmakers did nothing after that is a complete joke. Zucc should be in jail alongside every other piece of shit who thinks it's their right to mass-harvest every single person's personal data indiscriminately for profit.

dnissley 2y ago
The FTC fined Facebook 5 billion dollars and required new safeguards and audits around sharing of user data: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2019/07/ftc-imposes-5-billion-penalty-sweeping-new-privacy-restrictions-facebook https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2019/07/...

2muchcoffeeman 2y ago

You know what they say: Only old people use Facebook. All the younger people I know are on Instagram (yes Meta owns that). But another social network will take its place like it always has. I’m pretty sure Meta knows this since they also own WhatsApp. If FB dies, we’ll all be fine.

account42 2y ago

Only if "companies in similar situations" means companies that have been built around violating users' basic rights.