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Vikings in al-Andalus and the Maghreb
- slim 2y agolooks like it was hugged to death
- slim 2y agoInsufficient Storage The method could not be performed on the resource because the server is unable to store the representation needed to successfully complete the request. There is insufficient free space left in your storage allocation.
- Bluestein 2y agoShame, really.- Further sad, no Internet Archive nor archive.is, which, funny, has snapshotted this moment (facepalm): - https://archive.is/https://www.alandalusylahistoria.com/?p=4902 https://archive.is/https://www.alandalusylahistoria.com/?p=4...
- Bluestein 2y agoAlright. Appears back - probably recuperated somewhat :)
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- neonate 2y agohttps://web.archive.org/web/20240727170644/https://www.alandalusylahistoria.com/?p=4902 https://web.archive.org/web/20240727170644/https://www.aland... https://archive.ph/h0zD8 https://archive.ph/h0zD8
- kitd 2y agoVikings were amazingly influential in early modern history. They were the origins of Normans, who, quite apart from England and Northern France, founded successful kingdoms in the Mediterranean. They were also the original European Russians (the name "Russia" derives from "people who row", = Vikings)
- Bluestein 2y agoIndeed. They are 'seminal', in many ways.-
- Bluestein 2y agoPS. Apparently, someone objects to - I gather - my use of "seminal" here ... (By which no pun - even given ample pillaging and raping by the vikings - was intended ...) I just meant they are influential, even genetically.-
- ionwake 2y agoThis is a weird half apology. You used seminal and it makes sense with all the raping - it’s a good pun tho clearly it is offending some. No need to pretend it wasn’t a pun tho mate
- gumby 2y agoRus was settled by people who migrated from what is now Sweden.
- havelhovel 2y ago> people who migrated from what is now Sweden a.k.a. vikings
- INTPenis 2y agoI am super fascinated with "norse" history, specifically the parts we don't talk about much. To me "viking" is only a period of heightened threat against christianity, but the northern european region had been a threat to the roman empire. The east coast of England was dotted with roman forts, defended by fast moving Dalmatian cavalry against raids from the north sea. As soon as the romans left we see an invasion of people from Denmark and northern Germany. So the word viking, and the period 800 to 1066, show a very limited view of the northern european history.
- leyth 2y agoI am fascinated by them as well. Let me know if you know any of interesting documentaries out there.
- yareally 2y agoCoincidentally, I was watching this BBC documentary on the dark ages tonight and the last episode is about Viking art and culture in the dark ages. Entire series is worth a watch if you can find it. https://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=The_Dark_Ages:_An_Age_of_Light https://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=The_Dark_Ages:_An_Age_o...
- bbkane 2y agoNot a video, but I was enthralled by https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-69-twilight-of-the-aesir/ https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-69-twilig... .
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- blululu 2y agoInteresting. It is worth noting that the presence of Germanic tribes in Spain goes back much farther in time. and The name Al Andulus for instance comes from the Arabic name for the Vandals: a Germanic tribe who settled in Iberia.
- thom 2y agoYeah, it’s always surprising to learn that Spain in the 400s or so was a battleground between at least three different Germanic tribes: the Visigoths, the Suebi and the Vandals.
- thom 2y agoThe article mentions Vikings in the Maghreb as well, but obviously the Vandals under Gaiseric have them beaten there too, having ruled most of the western Mediterranean as far as Tripoli in his time. Germanic tribes, ruling North Africa, building amphitheatres and writing Latin poetry no less.
- leyth 2y agoIt's interesting that they were referred to as 'majus' or fire-worshipers, a term Muslims typically used for Zoroastrians.
- lordgrenville 2y agoFor those interested in the topic, I highly recommend this book: https://www.nyrb.com/products/the-long-ships https://www.nyrb.com/products/the-long-ships
- dr_dshiv 2y agoGraffiti evidence of Vikings in Athens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piraeus_Lion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piraeus_Lion
- mr_toad 2y agoAlso in Istanbul. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_inscriptions_in_Hagia_Sophia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_inscriptions_in_Hagia_So...
- fakedang 2y agoA very interesting character of this period was Harald Hardrada. Prior to becoming King of Norway, he fought for the Kievan Rus and was captain of the Varangian Guard. He became King of Norway after scheming with the King of Denmark, then immediately after turned his back on his former ally to claim his throne too. Then the brother of Harold the Saxon invited him to conquer England, which he did almost successfully. Almost successfully, because what happened next was the Battle of Stamford Bridge, and the end of the Viking era. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Hardrada https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Hardrada
- IncreasePosts 2y agoI'd love to read an alt history of what would have happened if Harald invaded a few weeks later, and William a few weeks earlier, and Godwinson was able to dispatch the Normans before having to deal with the Vikings.
- Bluestein 2y agoAll it would have taken is slightly different weather. Different sailing winds delaying or speeding some ships along. A few weeks ahead or a few weeks behind. And history would have changed forever ...
- begueradj 2y agoAt no point the article provides evidence of the Vikings presence in North Africa. But we have archeological evidence that the Vandals came to and lived in North Africa.
- mr_toad 2y agoThe Normans, who were basically descendants of Vikings established a short-lived kingdom in North Africa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Africa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Africa