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The head of US secret service just got 'resigned' after being double body slammed by Republicans and Democrats in congress on live TV. Still that is getting off
by anonylizard 2y ago
The head of US secret service just got 'resigned' after being double body slammed by Republicans and Democrats in congress on live TV. Still that is getting off lightly for a catastrophic failure 10x worse than crowdstrike.
- cycomanic 2y agoWhy was it 10 times worse? I would suspect the crowdstrike incident caused significant loss of life (emergency services in several countries were taken down, not even counting the hospitals etc.)
- khafra 2y ago[flagged]
- eptcyka 2y agoAre you talking about Claude, a LLM?
- jlmorton 2y agoClaude has absolutely no idea how many deaths occurred as a result of this outage. It's scary that people are taking these hallucinations as some sort of reasoned fact, or important opinion.
- Sharlin 2y agoYes, it's deeply worrying. And the source is Less Wrong of all places, an author with what seems like a solid track record and lots of karma. Really makes you wonder where we're heading.
- khafra 2y agoOk, do you think 1000 is way too low, or way too high? E.g., How many life-threatening emergencies do you think happen per hour across the world? How much extra time did it take to reach the average injured person over the outage period? How was the base rate of iatrogenic death affected by losing access to all electronic records for inpatients? If you come up with a fermi estimate more than two orders of magnitude lower than 1,000, I will be suspicious of your assumptions.
- anonylizard 2y agoAre you people being deliberately obtuse? A presidential candidate is equivalent to some random people? Like it was 2cm away from civil war. Are some random gang shootings that killed 10 people worse than JFK's killing?
- popcalc 2y ago>2cm away from civil war Don't be facetious.
- 1992spacemovie 2y agoYou have no idea how wired this country is. HN is a nerd cluster with zero social awareness. Half this site would die within 30 days of an insurgency kicking off hardcore.
- card_zero 2y agoI don't think JFK's assassination supports this though because that led to President Johnson, the Civil Rights Act, various memorials and some interesting X-Files episodes and not a civil war.
- 1992spacemovie 2y agoYou think this country is like it was in 1963? Lol ok.
- Moomoomoo309 2y agoIt doesn't have to be. They're disproving your claim that it will lead to civil war by showing that when that event happened previously, a civil war did not break out. It _might_ happen, sure, but it's not as sure of a thing as you're making it sound, either. The US is very divided currently, I agree, but I don't think any of us know what would have happened had Trump been assassinated, and anyone claiming otherwise is either too confident in their theorycrafting or trying to sell you something.
- atlintots 2y agoDid you seriously quote an estimate on deaths from... an LLM?
- flir 2y agoThe future is already here it is just unevenly distributed. Or something.
- fulafel 2y agoThe gist of this is of course absolutely right, never mind comments taking exception to LLM usage. Orders of magnitude more QUALYs lost.