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> This perplexes me as “the government” already has scans of your face. So these devices aren’t used to collect data. Citation extremely needed. Why would the

by quasse 2y ago

> This perplexes me as “the government” already has scans of your face. So these devices aren’t used to collect data. Citation extremely needed. Why would the government have a preexisting scan of my face?

prepend 2y ago
Driver’s license. Passport. Student id. Employment id (for the millions employed by the government). Etc etc etc Not to mention the data legally purchased from data brokers and illegally captured by NSA/etc.
- a_dabbler 2y ago
  Photo != Biometric scan
  - prepend 2y ago
    Yes, when it comes to face scanners at the airport. You’re standing in front of a government camera for a driver’s license or student id and it can (and likely will) take the same image data that the TSA cameras do. A high rez image is a type of biometric scan if you’re using it for facial recognition.
    - nullfrigid 2y ago
      > Yes, when it comes to face scanners at the airport. You’re standing in front of a government camera for a driver’s license or student id and it can (and likely will) take the same image data that the TSA cameras do. This is wrong. The TSA cameras are steroscopic and capture significantly more detail. Additionally, there is no oversight or information given about how that data will be used, sold, how long it will be kept for, etc. If you want to be entirely complacent that's your choice. But it isn't 'silly' for those of us that understand what's going on to oppose it, and it's disingenuous to easy because we have drivers licenses there is no reason to oppose it.
    - dangleberry 2y ago
      > Yes, when it comes to face scanners at the airport. You’re standing in front of a government camera for a driver’s license or student id and it can (and likely will) take the same image data that the TSA cameras do. This is wrong. The TSA cameras are steroscopic and capture significantly more detail. Additionally, there is no oversight or information given about how that data will be used, sold, how long it will be kept for, etc. If you want to be entirely complacent that's your choice. But it isn't 'silly' for those of us that understand what's going on to oppose it, and it's disingenuous to easy because we have drivers licenses there is no reason to oppose it.

by quasse 2y ago

prepend 2y ago

Driver’s license. Passport. Student id. Employment id (for the millions employed by the government). Etc etc etc Not to mention the data legally purchased from data brokers and illegally captured by NSA/etc.

a_dabbler 2y ago
Photo != Biometric scan
- prepend 2y ago
  Yes, when it comes to face scanners at the airport. You’re standing in front of a government camera for a driver’s license or student id and it can (and likely will) take the same image data that the TSA cameras do. A high rez image is a type of biometric scan if you’re using it for facial recognition.
  - nullfrigid 2y ago
    > Yes, when it comes to face scanners at the airport. You’re standing in front of a government camera for a driver’s license or student id and it can (and likely will) take the same image data that the TSA cameras do. This is wrong. The TSA cameras are steroscopic and capture significantly more detail. Additionally, there is no oversight or information given about how that data will be used, sold, how long it will be kept for, etc. If you want to be entirely complacent that's your choice. But it isn't 'silly' for those of us that understand what's going on to oppose it, and it's disingenuous to easy because we have drivers licenses there is no reason to oppose it.
  - dangleberry 2y ago
    > Yes, when it comes to face scanners at the airport. You’re standing in front of a government camera for a driver’s license or student id and it can (and likely will) take the same image data that the TSA cameras do. This is wrong. The TSA cameras are steroscopic and capture significantly more detail. Additionally, there is no oversight or information given about how that data will be used, sold, how long it will be kept for, etc. If you want to be entirely complacent that's your choice. But it isn't 'silly' for those of us that understand what's going on to oppose it, and it's disingenuous to easy because we have drivers licenses there is no reason to oppose it.