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There's a full time design team where I work. The menu items got decided before they all got hired. What they do is to move them around every few months, chang

by guappa 2y ago

There's a full time design team where I work. The menu items got decided before they all got hired. What they do is to move them around every few months, change the colours, design our application with a mobile layout, despite 99% of our users being on desktop computers…

nox101 2y ago
they need to be punched in the face! Designers that change up the UI just to have something to do drive me nuts! And, now it's life threatening because cars now get updates every ~12 months where some designers have decided how to use the car changes. So, things you got used to suddenly change and you have to figure them out WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING! I hope someone manages to sue over these changes when someone inevitably dies, so they'll be some pressure not to make them.
- carlmr 2y ago
  I still think cars need to be controlled through hardware knobs. At least all the normal car functions. GPS and AndroidAuto/Apple CarPlay interaction should be the one exception, but even here you need a volume knob at least, so that if the volume is suddenly too high you can react with muscle memory. Because surprisingly high volume can distract you enough to crash.
ErigmolCt 2y ago
Missing the mark in terms of aligning with user needs
karaterobot 2y ago
Keep in mind that the design team usually doesn't just make up work items, somebody is telling them to work on some product area. That somebody could be a product manager, or somebody higher up. Presumably there's a reason for them to be working on those things, and it's related to creating some sort of value for users and the company. If not, there just won't be a design team there for long.
- guappa 2y ago
  Well if they have no tasks they will create some like "improve xxx". You don't want to be without tasks for too long…
smrq 2y ago
>design our application with a mobile layout, despite 99% of our users being on desktop computers And without a mobile layout before, I wonder why? It's bonkers that not everyone is on board with responsive design being table stakes in 2024.
- CRConrad 2y ago
  I am so sorry I saw this comment too late to downvote it.
CRConrad 2y ago
> What [the full time design team] do is to move [the menu items] around every few months Poor fuckers probably don't even know that there is a standard -- CUA -- for what order those are supposed to be in: File, Edit, View ... Tools, Window(s), Help.

by guappa 2y ago

nox101 2y ago

they need to be punched in the face! Designers that change up the UI just to have something to do drive me nuts! And, now it's life threatening because cars now get updates every ~12 months where some designers have decided how to use the car changes. So, things you got used to suddenly change and you have to figure them out WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING! I hope someone manages to sue over these changes when someone inevitably dies, so they'll be some pressure not to make them.

carlmr 2y ago
I still think cars need to be controlled through hardware knobs. At least all the normal car functions. GPS and AndroidAuto/Apple CarPlay interaction should be the one exception, but even here you need a volume knob at least, so that if the volume is suddenly too high you can react with muscle memory. Because surprisingly high volume can distract you enough to crash.

ErigmolCt 2y ago

Missing the mark in terms of aligning with user needs

karaterobot 2y ago

Keep in mind that the design team usually doesn't just make up work items, somebody is telling them to work on some product area. That somebody could be a product manager, or somebody higher up. Presumably there's a reason for them to be working on those things, and it's related to creating some sort of value for users and the company. If not, there just won't be a design team there for long.

guappa 2y ago
Well if they have no tasks they will create some like "improve xxx". You don't want to be without tasks for too long…

smrq 2y ago

>design our application with a mobile layout, despite 99% of our users being on desktop computers And without a mobile layout before, I wonder why? It's bonkers that not everyone is on board with responsive design being table stakes in 2024.

CRConrad 2y ago
I am so sorry I saw this comment too late to downvote it.

CRConrad 2y ago

> What [the full time design team] do is to move [the menu items] around every few months Poor fuckers probably don't even know that there is a standard -- CUA -- for what order those are supposed to be in: File, Edit, View ... Tools, Window(s), Help.