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Nintendo has been doing this ... forever? The switch is ancient tech, and was outdated the moment it was released.

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
Switch could definitely have used more oomph. Many frame rate drops in the Zelda games. Many emulators claim to have the superior experience with those games.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 2y ago
  Which is correct. Plus a Wii game with 4k texture packs will look better than any HD remake
  - klodolph 2y ago
    I am deeply unimpressed with most of the 4K texture packs out there. I see a lot of this: https://twitter.com/letofski/status/982947652072488962 https://twitter.com/letofski/status/982947652072488962
    - andrepd 2y ago
      Same. Just rendering at 1080p / 4k is good enough to give most titles a nicer shine though :)
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segasaturn 2y ago
Actually Nintendo consoles used to be powerhouses until recently. The NES, SNES, N64 and GameCube were all considered state-of-the-art in terms of performance. It wasn't until the Wii when they began cutting down on performance in favor of fun features like they had been doing in the handheld space.
- Keyframe 2y ago
  Especially N64 - SGI indy in a small box. They did change the narrative after they couldn't or wouldn't compete on those numbers (rightfully so it turned out), however, they were always experimenting with controls and were highly influential in doing so. appropriate username, btw, but that console is for another topic!
- Frenchgeek 2y ago
  Pretty sure the NES was designed to a price point first and foremost. Especially after the video game crash. Hence the dirt-cheap 6502 derivative in it.
  - einr 2y ago
    The NES -- as far as its basic hardware architecture -- was not designed for a market where the video game crash had even occurred. It was designed for release in Japan in 1983 as the Famicom, undoubtedly the most powerful console in the market at the time -- a time where by the way I'm not sure what else you would even put in a console other than a 6502 or Z80. If you wanted cheap above all, you could have gone for a plain 6502 or a cut-down variant (like the 6507 in the Atari VCS), but they also didn't do that -- the Ricoh 2A03 is a custom part that includes custom sound hardware.
    - monocasa 2y ago
      > If you wanted cheap above all, you could have gone for a plain 6502 or a cut-down variant (like the 6507 in the Atari VCS), but they also didn't do that -- the Ricoh 2A03 is a custom part that includes custom sound hardware. The higher integration on a single chip for the 2A03 was absolutely a cost saving move.
- Laremere 2y ago
  That doesn't match my recollection. The Gameboy is a early counter example: it was black and white during a time where the game gear had color, yet the Gameboy was far more popular. Also I believe the Xbox was more powerful than the GameCube.
alliao 2y ago
switch was ancient tech, but still predates usb-c enough that they're rolling their own power protocols.. hence deluge of broken switch on ebay with fried usb-c ports...
- Andrex 2y ago
  Switch in no way predated USB-C, even talking widespread support... Nintendo rolled their own protocol because they could and USB allows for it.

Switch could definitely have used more oomph. Many frame rate drops in the Zelda games. Many emulators claim to have the superior experience with those games.

ThatMedicIsASpy 2y ago
Which is correct. Plus a Wii game with 4k texture packs will look better than any HD remake
- klodolph 2y ago
  I am deeply unimpressed with most of the 4K texture packs out there. I see a lot of this: https://twitter.com/letofski/status/982947652072488962 https://twitter.com/letofski/status/982947652072488962
  - andrepd 2y ago
    Same. Just rendering at 1080p / 4k is good enough to give most titles a nicer shine though :)

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segasaturn 2y ago

Actually Nintendo consoles used to be powerhouses until recently. The NES, SNES, N64 and GameCube were all considered state-of-the-art in terms of performance. It wasn't until the Wii when they began cutting down on performance in favor of fun features like they had been doing in the handheld space.

Keyframe 2y ago
Especially N64 - SGI indy in a small box. They did change the narrative after they couldn't or wouldn't compete on those numbers (rightfully so it turned out), however, they were always experimenting with controls and were highly influential in doing so. appropriate username, btw, but that console is for another topic!
Frenchgeek 2y ago
Pretty sure the NES was designed to a price point first and foremost. Especially after the video game crash. Hence the dirt-cheap 6502 derivative in it.
- einr 2y ago
  The NES -- as far as its basic hardware architecture -- was not designed for a market where the video game crash had even occurred. It was designed for release in Japan in 1983 as the Famicom, undoubtedly the most powerful console in the market at the time -- a time where by the way I'm not sure what else you would even put in a console other than a 6502 or Z80. If you wanted cheap above all, you could have gone for a plain 6502 or a cut-down variant (like the 6507 in the Atari VCS), but they also didn't do that -- the Ricoh 2A03 is a custom part that includes custom sound hardware.
  - monocasa 2y ago
    > If you wanted cheap above all, you could have gone for a plain 6502 or a cut-down variant (like the 6507 in the Atari VCS), but they also didn't do that -- the Ricoh 2A03 is a custom part that includes custom sound hardware. The higher integration on a single chip for the 2A03 was absolutely a cost saving move.
Laremere 2y ago
That doesn't match my recollection. The Gameboy is a early counter example: it was black and white during a time where the game gear had color, yet the Gameboy was far more popular. Also I believe the Xbox was more powerful than the GameCube.

alliao 2y ago

switch was ancient tech, but still predates usb-c enough that they're rolling their own power protocols.. hence deluge of broken switch on ebay with fried usb-c ports...

Andrex 2y ago
Switch in no way predated USB-C, even talking widespread support... Nintendo rolled their own protocol because they could and USB allows for it.