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i think you are bitting the dust of getting used to the taste of a drug, just like people who drink wine, beer etc. these are literally toxic & you get a natur

by luqtas 2y ago

i think you are bitting the dust of getting used to the taste of a drug, just like people who drink wine, beer etc. these are literally toxic & you get a natural avoidance response the 1° time you try, with very rare cases of acceptance without repulse

skhunted 2y ago
I never understood the acquired taste thing. If I don’t like the taste the first time I try something then there won’t be a second time. Why acquire a taste for something you didn’t originally like?
- xanderlewis 2y ago
  It’s like asking ‘why practice an instrument you can’t already play?’. If you only try each thing once and give up, you’ll get stuck in a local flavour maximum. Basically, what I’m saying is: it’s perfectly possible that the best experiences you can have are those that require a certain amount of less-pleasant experiences preceding them. You can stick with the medium-level experiences and you’ll never try anything bad twice, but you’ll also never discover things that might change your life.
- Kirby64 2y ago
  Preparation of a dish, varietals, and many other things (such as setting, accompaniments, etc) can impact taste. Just because you don’t like something one time doesn’t mean you wouldn’t in the future. You’d miss out on many great experiences this way.
- xolox 2y ago
  I got into fermented foods to improve my health, and quite a few of these are acquired tastes for me (and surely also for lots of other people). Milk kefir, water kefir, kombucha, tempeh, koji, natto, these things challenge the taste palate of someone who grew up in the Western world without exposure to fermented foods (e.g. a strong sourness to foods and drinks). I grew to appreciate and in some cases love them because I know what they do for my health. Nowadays I regularly crave fermented foods, but when I started taking them I had to force myself to get accustomed to them.
- NobodyNada 2y ago
  For coffee, for me personally: because it wasn't that hard to acquire. It took me like 2 cups of black coffee to get used to the bitterness, and the rest of the flavor is delicious.
- BazookaMusic 2y ago
  Sometimes the first time you try something the new experience can be overwhelming. You can focus on a specific part of an experience, for example the bitterness of a drink and quickly decide you don't like it. It can also be that the first time you try something you are in a bad mood or negatively predisposed towards something, eg. your parents may have said something tastes bad while growing up and you haven't tried it yourself. Multiple tries of something can lead to different experiences by tweaking different factors. In the end, some things we just don't like, but one try is not necessarily a good sample.
  - skhunted 2y ago
    I’m specifically talking about taste and not experiences in general. I don’t like the taste of something I don’t try it again. I haven’t found it limiting and as I said I don’t understand people drinking coffee enough to acquire a taste for it. I know people do this and they end up liking coffee. I just don’t understand that mentality though. It’s not for me but clearly is for some people.
    - edmundsauto 2y ago
      I used to be this way, but then I realized two flawed assumptions. Both related to each other: 1. Some % of the time, my first experience will not be like the others. 2. I will not be the same person the next time I try something. If your strategy works for you and you don't feel limited, that's great! Many people do feel limited if they only ate things they liked the first time. I am very happy that I eat bell peppers, onions, yoghurt, coffee, and (less happy due to calories) beer. If I only ate what I liked when I first tried it as a kid, I would be eating a lot of cheese pizza, candy, soda, and ice cream.
    - com2kid 2y ago
      Brains find familiar things comforting and "good". Brains can also find brand new things, especially experiences that have nothing in common with anything we've encountered in the past, as "bad". This applies to almost everything. Music is a good example, someone who has only grown up listening to folk music will likely find death metal incredibly hard to listen to, but they may find folk metal a little bit relatable. Same goes for art, when the classical artists first came out with super realistic portraits, many people found them ugly and repulsive, because they were so different than what came before. Then when things got more abstract, the same reaction occurred. This is also why people may not like a new song until they have heard it a bunch of times, then it can become one of their favorites! It lights up the "I know this thing" pathways in the brain. Well food is the same. People from cultures that don't eat cheese are not likely to enjoy a super stinky cheese to start with, but you can likely give them a mozzarella or a super mild Brie and they'll be fine with it (possibly after trying it a few times). Then after their brain gets used to "this is brie cheese, and it is pretty good" they may end up enjoying a slightly more aged/funkier brie cheese, and after a few years down that path they can be eating a wide variety of soft cheeses. This is why trying food again is worthwhile.
- criddell 2y ago
  If people lived by that there would be a lot of adults who never want to eat anything other than chicken nuggets and mac 'n cheese. For me, the biggest example is sushi. I didn't like it all the first time mostly because of the texture of the raw fish. Eating it with somebody who knew a lot about it changed everything for me. Now going to a great sushi restaurant is one of my very favorite things to do.
- socks 2y ago
  I really disliked beer until I was about 25 years old. I kept occasionally trying it, maybe because my girlfriend liked beer, and one day, to my surprise, found a particular beer I really liked. Trying new craft beers is now a bit of a passion, and have had over 250 different beers (I avoid buying repeats [unless extremely good] or a multipack)
- rfrey 2y ago
  I wonder how long my son would have survived on an exclusive McDonalds french fry diet.
  - shrimp_emoji 2y ago
    Probably to 53: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/24/entertainment/morgan-spurlock-death/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/24/entertainment/morgan-spurlock...
  - skhunted 2y ago
    I doubt your son did not like the taste of any other foods beside McDonalds french fries. I don’t understand your point.
    - rfrey 2y ago
      You're absolutely right, there was also apple juice as a fallback.
      - skhunted 2y ago
        No. You embellish for the sake of trying to make a poorly made point. Your kid may have preferred french fries but they weren’t limited by taste to just the two things you mentioned.
- c22 2y ago
  Maybe it's cheaper or has health benefits?
criddell 2y ago
Coffee is one of my very favorite things in the whole world and I don't ever remember a time where I didn't like it. Right from the start I've always preferred it black - no flavors or dairy. Alcohol is a little different. Beer I loved from my first sip when I was probably 5 or 6. Whisky, gin, vodka, etc... I mostly didn't like until I learned a little bit more about the drinks and the flavors that alcohol can carry (it's why cooking with alcohol can be amazing). My life with vegetables is similar. As a kid I thought there was nothing more vile than broccoli and brussel sprouts. I thought tomatoes were gross and grapefruit was pure poison. As an adult, I've learned to love all that stuff. Palates change.
- luqtas 2y ago
  i remember once @ my great grandad house taking half a cup of wine around my 7 y/o; didn't tasted awful at all but i was expecting Fanta Grape Soda and i was thirsty... but yeah, palate differs when you grow up; now if it's because social influence or effects from the substance, i dunno? but on taste & food (which for me it's different than a toxic substance); bitter/sour is rarely pleasurable for first timers and i can't deny that i'm in love with right after starting to ferment my stuff :)
- theGnuMe 2y ago
  It's genetic.. kids prefer sweet things that are high calorie since they are growing. Also bitter things tend to be poisonous in the evolutionary sense.. As you age you lose taste buds that don't regenerate, probably as an adaptive trait to discover new food sources.

by luqtas 2y ago

skhunted 2y ago

I never understood the acquired taste thing. If I don’t like the taste the first time I try something then there won’t be a second time. Why acquire a taste for something you didn’t originally like?

xanderlewis 2y ago
It’s like asking ‘why practice an instrument you can’t already play?’. If you only try each thing once and give up, you’ll get stuck in a local flavour maximum. Basically, what I’m saying is: it’s perfectly possible that the best experiences you can have are those that require a certain amount of less-pleasant experiences preceding them. You can stick with the medium-level experiences and you’ll never try anything bad twice, but you’ll also never discover things that might change your life.
Kirby64 2y ago
Preparation of a dish, varietals, and many other things (such as setting, accompaniments, etc) can impact taste. Just because you don’t like something one time doesn’t mean you wouldn’t in the future. You’d miss out on many great experiences this way.
xolox 2y ago
I got into fermented foods to improve my health, and quite a few of these are acquired tastes for me (and surely also for lots of other people). Milk kefir, water kefir, kombucha, tempeh, koji, natto, these things challenge the taste palate of someone who grew up in the Western world without exposure to fermented foods (e.g. a strong sourness to foods and drinks). I grew to appreciate and in some cases love them because I know what they do for my health. Nowadays I regularly crave fermented foods, but when I started taking them I had to force myself to get accustomed to them.
NobodyNada 2y ago
For coffee, for me personally: because it wasn't that hard to acquire. It took me like 2 cups of black coffee to get used to the bitterness, and the rest of the flavor is delicious.
BazookaMusic 2y ago
Sometimes the first time you try something the new experience can be overwhelming. You can focus on a specific part of an experience, for example the bitterness of a drink and quickly decide you don't like it. It can also be that the first time you try something you are in a bad mood or negatively predisposed towards something, eg. your parents may have said something tastes bad while growing up and you haven't tried it yourself. Multiple tries of something can lead to different experiences by tweaking different factors. In the end, some things we just don't like, but one try is not necessarily a good sample.
- skhunted 2y ago
  I’m specifically talking about taste and not experiences in general. I don’t like the taste of something I don’t try it again. I haven’t found it limiting and as I said I don’t understand people drinking coffee enough to acquire a taste for it. I know people do this and they end up liking coffee. I just don’t understand that mentality though. It’s not for me but clearly is for some people.
  - edmundsauto 2y ago
    I used to be this way, but then I realized two flawed assumptions. Both related to each other: 1. Some % of the time, my first experience will not be like the others. 2. I will not be the same person the next time I try something. If your strategy works for you and you don't feel limited, that's great! Many people do feel limited if they only ate things they liked the first time. I am very happy that I eat bell peppers, onions, yoghurt, coffee, and (less happy due to calories) beer. If I only ate what I liked when I first tried it as a kid, I would be eating a lot of cheese pizza, candy, soda, and ice cream.
  - com2kid 2y ago
    Brains find familiar things comforting and "good". Brains can also find brand new things, especially experiences that have nothing in common with anything we've encountered in the past, as "bad". This applies to almost everything. Music is a good example, someone who has only grown up listening to folk music will likely find death metal incredibly hard to listen to, but they may find folk metal a little bit relatable. Same goes for art, when the classical artists first came out with super realistic portraits, many people found them ugly and repulsive, because they were so different than what came before. Then when things got more abstract, the same reaction occurred. This is also why people may not like a new song until they have heard it a bunch of times, then it can become one of their favorites! It lights up the "I know this thing" pathways in the brain. Well food is the same. People from cultures that don't eat cheese are not likely to enjoy a super stinky cheese to start with, but you can likely give them a mozzarella or a super mild Brie and they'll be fine with it (possibly after trying it a few times). Then after their brain gets used to "this is brie cheese, and it is pretty good" they may end up enjoying a slightly more aged/funkier brie cheese, and after a few years down that path they can be eating a wide variety of soft cheeses. This is why trying food again is worthwhile.
criddell 2y ago
If people lived by that there would be a lot of adults who never want to eat anything other than chicken nuggets and mac 'n cheese. For me, the biggest example is sushi. I didn't like it all the first time mostly because of the texture of the raw fish. Eating it with somebody who knew a lot about it changed everything for me. Now going to a great sushi restaurant is one of my very favorite things to do.
socks 2y ago
I really disliked beer until I was about 25 years old. I kept occasionally trying it, maybe because my girlfriend liked beer, and one day, to my surprise, found a particular beer I really liked. Trying new craft beers is now a bit of a passion, and have had over 250 different beers (I avoid buying repeats [unless extremely good] or a multipack)
rfrey 2y ago
I wonder how long my son would have survived on an exclusive McDonalds french fry diet.
- shrimp_emoji 2y ago
  Probably to 53: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/24/entertainment/morgan-spurlock-death/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/24/entertainment/morgan-spurlock...
- skhunted 2y ago
  I doubt your son did not like the taste of any other foods beside McDonalds french fries. I don’t understand your point.
  - rfrey 2y ago
    You're absolutely right, there was also apple juice as a fallback.
    - skhunted 2y ago
      No. You embellish for the sake of trying to make a poorly made point. Your kid may have preferred french fries but they weren’t limited by taste to just the two things you mentioned.
c22 2y ago
Maybe it's cheaper or has health benefits?

criddell 2y ago

Coffee is one of my very favorite things in the whole world and I don't ever remember a time where I didn't like it. Right from the start I've always preferred it black - no flavors or dairy. Alcohol is a little different. Beer I loved from my first sip when I was probably 5 or 6. Whisky, gin, vodka, etc... I mostly didn't like until I learned a little bit more about the drinks and the flavors that alcohol can carry (it's why cooking with alcohol can be amazing). My life with vegetables is similar. As a kid I thought there was nothing more vile than broccoli and brussel sprouts. I thought tomatoes were gross and grapefruit was pure poison. As an adult, I've learned to love all that stuff. Palates change.

luqtas 2y ago
i remember once @ my great grandad house taking half a cup of wine around my 7 y/o; didn't tasted awful at all but i was expecting Fanta Grape Soda and i was thirsty... but yeah, palate differs when you grow up; now if it's because social influence or effects from the substance, i dunno? but on taste & food (which for me it's different than a toxic substance); bitter/sour is rarely pleasurable for first timers and i can't deny that i'm in love with right after starting to ferment my stuff :)
theGnuMe 2y ago
It's genetic.. kids prefer sweet things that are high calorie since they are growing. Also bitter things tend to be poisonous in the evolutionary sense.. As you age you lose taste buds that don't regenerate, probably as an adaptive trait to discover new food sources.