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> But he did campaign on a single term. He did not really do this.

by wilg 2y ago

woodruffw 2y ago
A single term was a prominent part of the discussion around his electability[1]. I'm not sure whether he campaigned on it per se, but it was certainly something that I (and other people I know) factored into my vote in 2020. [1]: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129 https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-0...
alex_young 2y ago
"Look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else," Biden said. "There's an entire generation of leaders you saw stand behind me. They are the future of this country." https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge-new-generation-of-leaders https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge...
- ThePowerOfFuet 2y ago
  Please stop spreading the cancer which is AMP. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge-new-generation-of-leaders https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge...
  - jimktrains2 2y ago
    At least it's on CNN's domain. I most hated that it used to always be hosted off of Google's domain.
- trhway 2y ago
  Biden was a stop-gap measure as Democrats didn't risk to put any new emerging leader against Trump. I think it was a big mistake - basically "coronation" of Biden back then replaced the normal, though painful, democratic process of producing a new Democrats leader. And as a result, it seems to me that Biden like a huge tree in the forest only exacerbated the issue by not letting new leadership to grow in the last 4 years. Of course he didn't do it intentionally, he (and his entourage) just naturally sucked up all the air and nothing grew in his shadow. Now, with the "anointment" of Harris, Democrats are repeating that mistake for the 3rd time - ie. Hillary, Biden, Harris - while on the other side we have a "Viking" leader who bloody slaughtered and ate all the competitors who were in that Republican jar (compare that to "Biden campaign chair to staff: Time to elevate Kamala Harris" - leaders aren't elevated by some bureaucrats, leaders arise and elevate themselves) (To clarify my political position, i'm pro-Democrat and think Biden wasn't a bad president, though i think he completely dropped the ball on the foreign policy - while Ukraine and Israel are more prominent, they cause multipage flamewars, so instead i'd point to Houthis where i think majority can agree with me that what Houtis do in Red Sea is just plain war crimes (intentional attacks on civilian shipping) and that should have been immediately nipped in the bud by the overwhelming US and allies' force in the region - if anything, protection of civilian shipping is one of the most legitimate major uses of the Navy, and i'd say it is a direct duty of the president to put it to such a use when the need arises)
  - shortrounddev2 2y ago
    > basically "coronation" of Biden back then replaced the normal, though painful, democratic process of producing a new Democrats leader There was a whole primary with like 12 other candidates and Biden won though. Bernie, Warren, Andrew Yang all had their shot, some did pretty well, but ultimately the democratic base voted for Biden
    - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
      > There was a whole primary with like 12 other candidates and Biden won though. Does no one remember what actually happened? All the other candidates except Warren made back room deals and dropped out around Iowa, suddenly and for no reason. Leaving Biden as the obvious selection, and Warren there to siphon off Bernie support to make sure he wouldn’t be a problem. The base voted for Biden after they had no choice.
      - shortrounddev2 2y ago
        Biden was polling over 50% since the start of the race. The idea that Warren supporters owed Bernie their support is ridiculous (bernie and warren supporters hated each other), and the idea that everyone dropped out to save biden is a braindead conspiracy theory
      - jeffbee 2y ago
        If there are people who don't remember these facts clearly, you are among them. Nobody dropped out "around Iowa" except Kremlin stooge Yang and literal Republican Bloomberg. No legitimate candidate dropped out until South Carolina, where Biden trounced the whole field. They quit because they got their faces ripped off in a fair fight, not because of some backroom party shenanigans.
      - sitkack 2y ago
        All the democrats fell on their swords so they weren't "splitting the vote", because Bernie was way way more popular than any of them.
      - 2y ago
scoofy 2y ago
His campaign HEAVILY implied this, but no, he never said it. It’s definitely one of those thing that make people like me, who want good faith honesty in politics angry, because “he didn’t actually say it” politics is why gotcha politics exists.
- smsm42 2y ago
  I remember that too, it was never said explicitly but heavily implied like "he'll return things to normal and then pass the torch to the younger generation" and such comments. I remember being slightly surprised by it because the traditional way was to renominate the sitting president, but a lot of things weren't as they used to in 2020.
_heimdall 2y ago
I never could find a direct quote of Biden himself saying he would be a single term president, but his campaign team said it regularly in public interviews.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 2y ago
  In 2020, when they asked him if he'd run for reelection, he said "I view myself as a transitional president," which is a pretty fucking weird answer if he were planning to run again. Everyone expected him to drop out earlier, but I think the reason he stayed in as long as he did was to take all the bullets for Kamala until he felt confident all the other potential challengers would get behind her. What he didn't want to do was drop out early, let Kamala get battered and bloodied by her own party nomination process, win the nomination, then lose to Trump just because she'd been dragged through the mud in the media for months.
  - _heimdall 2y ago
    I'm not quite sold on it having been a plan to protect Harris and give her the spot without a primary. That strategy would take a ton of coordinstion, but more importantly it throws a ridiculous amount of uncertainty intoix that I think any political party would be too afraid of. The more simple explanation, in my opinion, is that Biden is exactly what some had thought for over a year now - a person getting older and starting to run into cognitive and physical decline. I've watched multiple family members go through this, and the picture of a person in the middle of decline lying to themselves about their new reality and stubbornly refusing to accept it fits perfectly well.

> But he did campaign on a single term. He did not really do this.

by wilg 2y ago

> But he did campaign on a single term. He did not really do this.

A single term was a prominent part of the discussion around his electability[1]. I'm not sure whether he campaigned on it per se, but it was certainly something that I (and other people I know) factored into my vote in 2020. [1]: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-082129 https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/11/biden-single-term-0...

alex_young 2y ago

"Look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else," Biden said. "There's an entire generation of leaders you saw stand behind me. They are the future of this country." https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge-new-generation-of-leaders https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge...

ThePowerOfFuet 2y ago
Please stop spreading the cancer which is AMP. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge-new-generation-of-leaders https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/09/politics/joe-biden-bridge...
- jimktrains2 2y ago
  At least it's on CNN's domain. I most hated that it used to always be hosted off of Google's domain.
trhway 2y ago
Biden was a stop-gap measure as Democrats didn't risk to put any new emerging leader against Trump. I think it was a big mistake - basically "coronation" of Biden back then replaced the normal, though painful, democratic process of producing a new Democrats leader. And as a result, it seems to me that Biden like a huge tree in the forest only exacerbated the issue by not letting new leadership to grow in the last 4 years. Of course he didn't do it intentionally, he (and his entourage) just naturally sucked up all the air and nothing grew in his shadow. Now, with the "anointment" of Harris, Democrats are repeating that mistake for the 3rd time - ie. Hillary, Biden, Harris - while on the other side we have a "Viking" leader who bloody slaughtered and ate all the competitors who were in that Republican jar (compare that to "Biden campaign chair to staff: Time to elevate Kamala Harris" - leaders aren't elevated by some bureaucrats, leaders arise and elevate themselves) (To clarify my political position, i'm pro-Democrat and think Biden wasn't a bad president, though i think he completely dropped the ball on the foreign policy - while Ukraine and Israel are more prominent, they cause multipage flamewars, so instead i'd point to Houthis where i think majority can agree with me that what Houtis do in Red Sea is just plain war crimes (intentional attacks on civilian shipping) and that should have been immediately nipped in the bud by the overwhelming US and allies' force in the region - if anything, protection of civilian shipping is one of the most legitimate major uses of the Navy, and i'd say it is a direct duty of the president to put it to such a use when the need arises)
- shortrounddev2 2y ago
  > basically "coronation" of Biden back then replaced the normal, though painful, democratic process of producing a new Democrats leader There was a whole primary with like 12 other candidates and Biden won though. Bernie, Warren, Andrew Yang all had their shot, some did pretty well, but ultimately the democratic base voted for Biden
  - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
    > There was a whole primary with like 12 other candidates and Biden won though. Does no one remember what actually happened? All the other candidates except Warren made back room deals and dropped out around Iowa, suddenly and for no reason. Leaving Biden as the obvious selection, and Warren there to siphon off Bernie support to make sure he wouldn’t be a problem. The base voted for Biden after they had no choice.
    - shortrounddev2 2y ago
      Biden was polling over 50% since the start of the race. The idea that Warren supporters owed Bernie their support is ridiculous (bernie and warren supporters hated each other), and the idea that everyone dropped out to save biden is a braindead conspiracy theory
    - jeffbee 2y ago
      If there are people who don't remember these facts clearly, you are among them. Nobody dropped out "around Iowa" except Kremlin stooge Yang and literal Republican Bloomberg. No legitimate candidate dropped out until South Carolina, where Biden trounced the whole field. They quit because they got their faces ripped off in a fair fight, not because of some backroom party shenanigans.
    - sitkack 2y ago
      All the democrats fell on their swords so they weren't "splitting the vote", because Bernie was way way more popular than any of them.
    - 2y ago

scoofy 2y ago

His campaign HEAVILY implied this, but no, he never said it. It’s definitely one of those thing that make people like me, who want good faith honesty in politics angry, because “he didn’t actually say it” politics is why gotcha politics exists.

smsm42 2y ago
I remember that too, it was never said explicitly but heavily implied like "he'll return things to normal and then pass the torch to the younger generation" and such comments. I remember being slightly surprised by it because the traditional way was to renominate the sitting president, but a lot of things weren't as they used to in 2020.

_heimdall 2y ago

I never could find a direct quote of Biden himself saying he would be a single term president, but his campaign team said it regularly in public interviews.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 2y ago
In 2020, when they asked him if he'd run for reelection, he said "I view myself as a transitional president," which is a pretty fucking weird answer if he were planning to run again. Everyone expected him to drop out earlier, but I think the reason he stayed in as long as he did was to take all the bullets for Kamala until he felt confident all the other potential challengers would get behind her. What he didn't want to do was drop out early, let Kamala get battered and bloodied by her own party nomination process, win the nomination, then lose to Trump just because she'd been dragged through the mud in the media for months.
- _heimdall 2y ago
  I'm not quite sold on it having been a plan to protect Harris and give her the spot without a primary. That strategy would take a ton of coordinstion, but more importantly it throws a ridiculous amount of uncertainty intoix that I think any political party would be too afraid of. The more simple explanation, in my opinion, is that Biden is exactly what some had thought for over a year now - a person getting older and starting to run into cognitive and physical decline. I've watched multiple family members go through this, and the picture of a person in the middle of decline lying to themselves about their new reality and stubbornly refusing to accept it fits perfectly well.