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Release how it’s done. “Faster than a MacBook Air” isn’t hard if you’re willing to burn electricity and produce more heat. Really it’s the same for the MBP com

by MBCook 2y ago

Release how it’s done. “Faster than a MacBook Air” isn’t hard if you’re willing to burn electricity and produce more heat. Really it’s the same for the MBP comparison. Heck Intel can beat a MBP. The could when it was released. You can buy it right now. Just don’t expect similar battery life or a light laptop. Can you beat the performance at the same battery life with a similar sized battery? Can you match the performance and battery life while using a smaller battery? Just saying you’re faster is only part of the story. Without the qualifiers you used it’s not meaningful.

s3p 2y ago
I think the article gives a good read on AMD's ambitions, they are absolutely looking at performance per watt and they are working to make these more efficient. So they didn't just give a cpu a shit ton of power, they actually focused on efficiency. Or at least that's what they said in the article. No battery life stats out yet.
- MBCook 2y ago
  That’s what they said, yeah. But it’s all talk without the numbers. I know they’re focusing on efficiency, and good for them. I hope their claims are accurate or at least close. But I’ve been on this ride way too many times. Some company claiming their thing is better than the other one and then it turns out it just flat out isn’t, or only is with some giant compromise. It’s the combination of speed, battery life, AND heat that have been magical for the Mac compared to the last Intel chips they shipped. I’m just expecting another case of faster but hotter or worse battery life. Pretty much all the quotes are about being faster. Then there’s this: > During the event, AMD would only say that battery life would last “all day,” which the company defines as “eight hours or more. I don’t know how that compares in the PC space but if the best you can do is 8 hours you’re WAY WAY off. An Air is rated at 18 hours, a 16” MBP at 22. That’s what I’m talking about. They are not matching Apple. They’re making big cuts somewhere. It may be a big improvement in the PC space, and good for them if it is, but don’t say you’re beating Apple if you’re getting 40% of the battery life at the same performance.
jwells89 2y ago
Additionally, can it match or best the MBA without a fan? What about when unplugged? The appeal of the M1 MBA even today isn't that it's fast, it's that it's fast enough while also delivering great battery life, not throttling when unplugged, and being dead silent and cool to the touch. It's everything that an everyday laptop should be.
- anakaine 2y ago
  And it's exactly those things that keep it in my bag instead of something else. Sometimes I'll have both a recent i7 laptop plus the MBA, and 99% of the time.its the MBA I'm reaching for. Open lid, it's on, instantly. Close lid, its asleep without any nonsense phantom power draw (looking at you, dell.) On battery, it runs all day despite being 3 years old. There's no.moving parts, no fan throttling, etc. It doesnt warm up my lap or care if I block a fan port. Its also very, very light. I'll happily use whatever OS. But I adore that bit of hardware. The software is a bonus. I dont see a scenario where Microsoft puts in the same transformation effort that Apple did in pairing the OS to next gen hardware an optimising for power, compatibility, stability, etc.
  - transpute 2y ago
    As a bonus, Asahi Linux on MBA continues to improve steadily.

by MBCook 2y ago

s3p 2y ago

I think the article gives a good read on AMD's ambitions, they are absolutely looking at performance per watt and they are working to make these more efficient. So they didn't just give a cpu a shit ton of power, they actually focused on efficiency. Or at least that's what they said in the article. No battery life stats out yet.

MBCook 2y ago
That’s what they said, yeah. But it’s all talk without the numbers. I know they’re focusing on efficiency, and good for them. I hope their claims are accurate or at least close. But I’ve been on this ride way too many times. Some company claiming their thing is better than the other one and then it turns out it just flat out isn’t, or only is with some giant compromise. It’s the combination of speed, battery life, AND heat that have been magical for the Mac compared to the last Intel chips they shipped. I’m just expecting another case of faster but hotter or worse battery life. Pretty much all the quotes are about being faster. Then there’s this: > During the event, AMD would only say that battery life would last “all day,” which the company defines as “eight hours or more. I don’t know how that compares in the PC space but if the best you can do is 8 hours you’re WAY WAY off. An Air is rated at 18 hours, a 16” MBP at 22. That’s what I’m talking about. They are not matching Apple. They’re making big cuts somewhere. It may be a big improvement in the PC space, and good for them if it is, but don’t say you’re beating Apple if you’re getting 40% of the battery life at the same performance.

jwells89 2y ago

Additionally, can it match or best the MBA without a fan? What about when unplugged? The appeal of the M1 MBA even today isn't that it's fast, it's that it's fast enough while also delivering great battery life, not throttling when unplugged, and being dead silent and cool to the touch. It's everything that an everyday laptop should be.

anakaine 2y ago
And it's exactly those things that keep it in my bag instead of something else. Sometimes I'll have both a recent i7 laptop plus the MBA, and 99% of the time.its the MBA I'm reaching for. Open lid, it's on, instantly. Close lid, its asleep without any nonsense phantom power draw (looking at you, dell.) On battery, it runs all day despite being 3 years old. There's no.moving parts, no fan throttling, etc. It doesnt warm up my lap or care if I block a fan port. Its also very, very light. I'll happily use whatever OS. But I adore that bit of hardware. The software is a bonus. I dont see a scenario where Microsoft puts in the same transformation effort that Apple did in pairing the OS to next gen hardware an optimising for power, compatibility, stability, etc.
- transpute 2y ago
  As a bonus, Asahi Linux on MBA continues to improve steadily.