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> Cuba would be a great travel destination. It's been a while since I visited places outside the US, but one of the shocking things was travel ads for Cuba eve
by toast0 2y ago
> Cuba would be a great travel destination.
It's been a while since I visited places outside the US, but one of the shocking things was travel ads for Cuba everywhere.
From what I can tell, US-Cuban relations seem to be at the whim of the US President. Most of the US population doesn't care; most of the rest of the world has fine relations with Cuba, but isn't going to pressure the US. Nobody is sending missiles to Cuba anymore.
- duskwuff 2y ago> Nobody is sending missiles to Cuba anymore. Or are they? https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/americas/russian-navy-cuba-intl/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/12/americas/russian-navy-cuba-in...
- astromaniak 2y agoStill no. Just a visit, doesn't look like Cuba has any wish to become Russia's military fortress. From Russia side all decisions are made by a single person who is not thinking big. Cuba would be quite expensive. Ukraine is more then enough for Putin, unlikely he wants a new 'adventure'.
- rubytubido 2y ago> Ukraine is more then enough for Putin What about propaganda where he will capture the whole EU after Ukraine?
- throwawayq3423 2y ago> propaganda You mean his own words? https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-ally-warns-enemy-poland-you-risk-losing-your-statehood-2023-11-02/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-ally-warns-enemy-...
- input_sh 2y agoMedvedev's not Putin, he's Putin's useful idiot, a provocateur, west's bogeyman. The only time he makes the news in the west is when he mentions nuking some random European country, which for the record happens quite frequently. You should never take anything he says seriously.
- ajmurmann 2y agoHow is it useful to provoke your much stronger opponent when your own country has the GDP of Greece?
- input_sh 2y agoBecause he's not targeting the west, he's targeting semi-literate part of Russian population. He isn't giving statements like that on CNN, he's giving statements like that on TV programs that no educated person watches. He's there to blow things out of proportion locally, he just happens to be translated from time to time for clicks. There's no significance to his words. He doesn't speak on behalf of Putin, he's not there to leak some super-secret internal plans for the future, he's just there to yap about how Russia can totally take over the entire Europe.
- seniorivn 2y agoeducation has nothing to do with this, an average university professor in Russia(or for a matter of fact in the west too) is a radical supporter of the mainstream media
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- seniorivn 2y agothere is no point in comparing gdps here, what's important is what is the capability of war industry and armies are, and at the moment we can see that industries are not that far off, add nuclear weapons to the picture, and its draw, just as it was in the cold war.
- kgwgk 2y agoChina is Cuba's main commercial partner but their relationship is purely commercial. A military cooperation has surely not even crossed their minds.
- alwa 2y agoE.g. https://features.csis.org/hiddenreach/china-cuba-spy-sigint/ https://features.csis.org/hiddenreach/china-cuba-spy-sigint/
- nradov 2y agoIt's not just the President. Some aspects of US-Cuban relations are written into federal law and would take an Act of Congress to change. As a practical matter, Americans can travel to Cuba without much trouble. Several of my friends have gone.
- mahkeiro 2y agoAmerican yes but not if you are from another country and need to go the US…
- BurningFrog 2y agoThe people who really care are Cuban exiles around Miami. When Florida was a swing state, that was enough to make every presidential candidate be pro embargo. Now that Florida is a red state, it might be different.
- paxys 2y agoThe Cuban population of Miami is heavily republican and pro-embargo. This is why Obama got rid of it and Trump reinstated it.
- hadlock 2y agoWhat I can't understand is WHY are the people who escaped for a better life, pro embargo... What, 70 years later? Seems like it's only being highly effective at hurting the general population
- whydoineedthis 2y agoMy father migrated from Cuba in the 60's and anytime I asked him whether it was worth me visiting he promptly said "No, absolutely not. Don't even waste your time considering it. Castro ruined it and it will never be the same". I think the moral is that for many Cubans the embargo isn't against the people, it's against the Cuban government, and they genuinely hate the government with every fiber of their existence. They hate what Castro took from them and have no dissolutions that letting up the embargo would strengthen that governments rule while only providing minuscule benefits to the people. Until the government regime changes in Cuba, any pressure we can apply is worth it.
- nobodyandproud 2y agoThe handful of Cubans I've known over the years expressed the same sentiment: Intense hatred for Castro and the Cuban government.
- hadlock 2y agoJust to clarify, you are upholding your father's political retribution despite being born elsewhere and (presumably) never visiting? I'm genuinely curious.
- fracus 2y agoI think the major problem with Cuba is their relationship with Russia.
- throwawayq3423 2y ago> most of the rest of the world has fine relations with Cuba Most of the rest of the world didn't get Soviet nuclear missiles pointed at them by Cuba.
- Log_out_ 2y agoEveryone in europe had to be fine with that for the whole cold war. Never understood the american hysterics during the cuban missile crisis. Like the END wasnt real before and after.Manifest destiny for exceptional Hipocrasy.
- apexalpha 2y agoThis is 60 years ago... In that same timeframe the EU was formed and grown to 26 nations including roughly 10 that pointed nuclear missiles at each other one time.
- Gud 2y agoWhat time was that? There aren't even ten nations in the EU with nuclear weapons.
- kzrdude 2y agoJust like Cuba didn't really itself point missiles towards the US (it was the soviets), the Warsaw pact nations inside current EU were used as Soviet proxies too.
- Gud 2y agoOk, I still don't get it then. The Warsaw pact nations were not planning on using their nukes on other European nations with nuclear weapons, to avoid getting nuked themselves. This is documented in the (formerly) secret war plans that were released by the Czech republic.
- throwawayq3423 2y agoNot only did Cuba allow for missiles to be there, Castro specifically argued to use them. https://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/23/opinion/castro-wanted-a-nuclear-strike.html https://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/23/opinion/castro-wanted-a-n...