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NT 4 EULA had a similar note, but it was limited in scope to JAVA. > 8. NOTE ON JAVA SUPPORT. THE SOFTWARE PRODUCT CONTAINS SUPPORT FOR PROGRAMS WRITTEN IN J

NT 4 EULA had a similar note, but it was limited in scope to JAVA. > 8. NOTE ON JAVA SUPPORT. THE SOFTWARE PRODUCT CONTAINS SUPPORT FOR PROGRAMS WRITTEN IN JAVA. JAVA TECHNOLOGY IS NOT FAULT TOLERANT AND IS NOT DESIGNED, MANUFACTURED, OR INTENDED FOR USE OR RESALE AS ON-LINE CONTROL EQUIPMENT IN HAZARDOUS ENVIRONMENTS REQUIRING FAIL-SAFE PERFORMANCE, SUCH AS IN THE OPERATION OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES, AIRCRAFT NAVIGATION OR COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL, DIRECT LIFE SUPPORT MACHINES, OR WEAPONS SYSTEMS, IN WHICH THE FAILURE OF JAVA TECHNOLOGY COULD LEAD DIRECTLY TO DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, OR SEVERE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE.

netsharc 2y ago
I wonder if that's MS's Java or Sun's. If it's from a third party they probably copy-pasted the relevant paragraphs. Quicktime also has a paragraph about not using them to operate nuclear facilities...
- minton 2y ago
  QuickTime? The video stuff from Apple?
  - netsharc 2y ago
    Yeah, the one we had to install on Windows 98 to play MOV files. Which, I learnt yesterday[1]/[2], is the video format that turned to MP4. [1] https://obsproject.com/blog/obs-studio-hybrid-mp4 https://obsproject.com/blog/obs-studio-hybrid-mp4 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40951187 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40951187
- kmeisthax 2y ago
  The Quicktime nuclear clause also got copied into the iTunes EULA, which is extremely funny.
  - cranberryturkey 2y ago
    Well shit, I guess I have to pivot. I was going to operate my nuclear facility with Quicktime.
    - OhMeadhbh 2y ago
      I probably shouldn't mention how UK Nuke subs used to use WinXP. Maybe they still do. Even if they were using CS, I doubt they would update systems while deployed. I had this horrified image of a nuke sub at the bottom of the ocean while the onboard IT tech was trying hard to make sense of why all the critical systems kept blue-screening. https://www.theregister.com/2008/12/16/windows_for_submarines_rollout/ https://www.theregister.com/2008/12/16/windows_for_submarine...
- sgbeal 2y ago
  The disclaimer about not using Java for X, Y, and Z was part of the Java EULA for many years (and my still be - no idea).
cbhl 2y ago
If I recall correctly, part of the context for this was that Microsoft had shipped its own implementation of Java separate from Sun's, but it only implemented a subset of the language. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine
- seanmcdirmid 2y ago
  I remember it being a superset, they added an extension to make implementing native methods easier on windows. ActiveX Jdirect or something like that.

netsharc 2y ago

I wonder if that's MS's Java or Sun's. If it's from a third party they probably copy-pasted the relevant paragraphs. Quicktime also has a paragraph about not using them to operate nuclear facilities...

minton 2y ago
QuickTime? The video stuff from Apple?
- netsharc 2y ago
  Yeah, the one we had to install on Windows 98 to play MOV files. Which, I learnt yesterday[1]/[2], is the video format that turned to MP4. [1] https://obsproject.com/blog/obs-studio-hybrid-mp4 https://obsproject.com/blog/obs-studio-hybrid-mp4 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40951187 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40951187
kmeisthax 2y ago
The Quicktime nuclear clause also got copied into the iTunes EULA, which is extremely funny.
- cranberryturkey 2y ago
  Well shit, I guess I have to pivot. I was going to operate my nuclear facility with Quicktime.
  - OhMeadhbh 2y ago
    I probably shouldn't mention how UK Nuke subs used to use WinXP. Maybe they still do. Even if they were using CS, I doubt they would update systems while deployed. I had this horrified image of a nuke sub at the bottom of the ocean while the onboard IT tech was trying hard to make sense of why all the critical systems kept blue-screening. https://www.theregister.com/2008/12/16/windows_for_submarines_rollout/ https://www.theregister.com/2008/12/16/windows_for_submarine...
sgbeal 2y ago
The disclaimer about not using Java for X, Y, and Z was part of the Java EULA for many years (and my still be - no idea).

cbhl 2y ago

If I recall correctly, part of the context for this was that Microsoft had shipped its own implementation of Java separate from Sun's, but it only implemented a subset of the language. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Java_Virtual_Machine

seanmcdirmid 2y ago
I remember it being a superset, they added an extension to make implementing native methods easier on windows. ActiveX Jdirect or something like that.