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To ensure that we are on the same page, describe for me what you are looking at. Does it appear to be a human, or does it appear to be software?

freejazz 2y ago
Humans can communicate through software, what is your point? People can be rude in person, over the phone, in writing via pen or computer.
- randomdata 2y ago
  I'll take that to mean that you see software, but okay, let's agree that appearances are not always what they seem. What ultimately sets humans apart from the monkeys, to make the difference between human intent and non-human intent significant, is identity. Indeed, a human in a costume that is unrecognizable from an actual monkey, thus having no identity, would not conjure rudeness feelings when giving the middle finger any more than an actual monkey would. It is fair to say that identity is not necessarily one's outer appearance. Signing one's name is another way humans confer identity, for example. Do you recognize a human identity here? If so, describe it for us.
  - lttlrck 2y ago
    Insufferable.
    - randomdata 2y ago
      To be insufferable may be a quality of humans, but is decidedly not an identity. I suppose your message here is that there is no discernible identity, surprising no one? So, for what logical reason are we considering software to be human again?
  - freejazz 2y ago
    > If so, describe it for us. I already did when I called you rude.
    - randomdata 2y ago
      If rude is an identity, that means when a human witnesses a crime, describing the perpetrator as "rude" to the police office on duty will be sufficient to track down and nab the criminal. Ha. Not going to happen. "Rude" can describe anyone. It does not serve to provide an identity. And this is how you want us to come to believe that software is human?
- grecy 2y ago
  FWIW my conversation with randomdata in this chain has been equally baffling and strange. I actually think that account is a bot.
  - freejazz 2y ago
    Pretty sure it's just an asshole.

freejazz 2y ago

Humans can communicate through software, what is your point? People can be rude in person, over the phone, in writing via pen or computer.

randomdata 2y ago
I'll take that to mean that you see software, but okay, let's agree that appearances are not always what they seem. What ultimately sets humans apart from the monkeys, to make the difference between human intent and non-human intent significant, is identity. Indeed, a human in a costume that is unrecognizable from an actual monkey, thus having no identity, would not conjure rudeness feelings when giving the middle finger any more than an actual monkey would. It is fair to say that identity is not necessarily one's outer appearance. Signing one's name is another way humans confer identity, for example. Do you recognize a human identity here? If so, describe it for us.
- lttlrck 2y ago
  Insufferable.
  - randomdata 2y ago
    To be insufferable may be a quality of humans, but is decidedly not an identity. I suppose your message here is that there is no discernible identity, surprising no one? So, for what logical reason are we considering software to be human again?
- freejazz 2y ago
  > If so, describe it for us. I already did when I called you rude.
  - randomdata 2y ago
    If rude is an identity, that means when a human witnesses a crime, describing the perpetrator as "rude" to the police office on duty will be sufficient to track down and nab the criminal. Ha. Not going to happen. "Rude" can describe anyone. It does not serve to provide an identity. And this is how you want us to come to believe that software is human?
grecy 2y ago
FWIW my conversation with randomdata in this chain has been equally baffling and strange. I actually think that account is a bot.
- freejazz 2y ago
  Pretty sure it's just an asshole.