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You just mixed up everything as did people in the article. Happiness is one thing, freedom of choice is another thing, comfort is a third thing, satisfaction is

You just mixed up everything as did people in the article. Happiness is one thing, freedom of choice is another thing, comfort is a third thing, satisfaction is a fourth thing. These are all completely different things. Its rather simple to understand, whatever job you were "wasting" time on, if there is at least 1 human being on this planet who does this same job and is happy then problem is not in this job, problem is with you. If you have clear understanding of this you can do whatever job for any amount of hours and be happy. In fact I know thousands people working without being payed at all and they are way happier than highest income people you can imagine. Because they took time to learn how to keep themselves happy.

vouaobrasil 2y ago
> Its rather simple to understand, whatever job you were "wasting" time on, if there is at least 1 human being on this planet who does this same job and is happy then problem is not in this job, problem is with you. That makes no sense whatsoever and does not take into account preference. That's like saying "if there's at least one person that likes garlic ice cream, then you disliking it is just a frame of mind". Your logic is strange. What if I found one person who managed to obtain enlightenment from meditation and achieve happiness in a concentration camp. Would you then say that other people not being happy in a concentration camp is their problem because they couldn't do the same thing?
- mapcars 2y ago
  > Would you then say that other people not being happy in a concentration camp is their problem because they couldn't do the same thing? Yes, absolutely. And of course I'm not saying that concentration camps are any good or anything like that. This logic may seem strange because in external situations what one person can do another can not do simply because of different capabilities. But when it comes to internal experiences, if you had even 1 moment of happiness in your life that means you are able to create that experience. You just didn't unravel the mechanics of it, but some people did and by my own experience I can confirm that its possible to have inner experience be whatever you want independent of the outside conditions.
  - vouaobrasil 2y ago
    I do understand that, it's an interesting point of view. I appreciate it as I meditate. And there is something to it for sure. Your statement is certainly incontrovertible. I suppose it is better to separate the creation of happiness independent of current conditions from other variables.
    - mapcars 2y ago
      Just to clarify - meditation means many things, we have 1 word in English but in Eastern culture there is a dozen or more different practices. What they found out (seemingly very long time ago) is essentially that human experience happens from within. There are external situations which may stimulate that, but in the end it always happens from within. This is very easy to observe in people from different cultures/backgrounds having completely different responses to the same exact situation. If that is established the next question is how do I create the experience I want? And what I want for myself is of course the utmost pleasantness. So they figured out many different methods, strange and exotic, but the important thing is they are working. I did try a few of them and one did work in a huge way so I feel that I must speak up when people discuss such vital topics like happiness in primitive terms of "money make people happy", "freedom makes people happy", "family makes people happy" etc.

vouaobrasil 2y ago

> Its rather simple to understand, whatever job you were "wasting" time on, if there is at least 1 human being on this planet who does this same job and is happy then problem is not in this job, problem is with you. That makes no sense whatsoever and does not take into account preference. That's like saying "if there's at least one person that likes garlic ice cream, then you disliking it is just a frame of mind". Your logic is strange. What if I found one person who managed to obtain enlightenment from meditation and achieve happiness in a concentration camp. Would you then say that other people not being happy in a concentration camp is their problem because they couldn't do the same thing?

mapcars 2y ago
> Would you then say that other people not being happy in a concentration camp is their problem because they couldn't do the same thing? Yes, absolutely. And of course I'm not saying that concentration camps are any good or anything like that. This logic may seem strange because in external situations what one person can do another can not do simply because of different capabilities. But when it comes to internal experiences, if you had even 1 moment of happiness in your life that means you are able to create that experience. You just didn't unravel the mechanics of it, but some people did and by my own experience I can confirm that its possible to have inner experience be whatever you want independent of the outside conditions.
- vouaobrasil 2y ago
  I do understand that, it's an interesting point of view. I appreciate it as I meditate. And there is something to it for sure. Your statement is certainly incontrovertible. I suppose it is better to separate the creation of happiness independent of current conditions from other variables.
  - mapcars 2y ago
    Just to clarify - meditation means many things, we have 1 word in English but in Eastern culture there is a dozen or more different practices. What they found out (seemingly very long time ago) is essentially that human experience happens from within. There are external situations which may stimulate that, but in the end it always happens from within. This is very easy to observe in people from different cultures/backgrounds having completely different responses to the same exact situation. If that is established the next question is how do I create the experience I want? And what I want for myself is of course the utmost pleasantness. So they figured out many different methods, strange and exotic, but the important thing is they are working. I did try a few of them and one did work in a huge way so I feel that I must speak up when people discuss such vital topics like happiness in primitive terms of "money make people happy", "freedom makes people happy", "family makes people happy" etc.