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What is hidden from all this is one of the greatest scams happening in the tech industry: recruiters. I think there is not enough light shone on these group of

What is hidden from all this is one of the greatest scams happening in the tech industry: recruiters. I think there is not enough light shone on these group of people but basically they have hijacked the whole process and are not technically skilled to understand good developers. UK tech companies for example have been decimated because of this.

ukoki 2y ago
How is it a scam? If it was that bad nearly all companies would just use in-house recruiters Someone has to do the work of pestering software developers on LinkedIn. If the external recruiters didn't do it, companies would just do it themselves.
- dlisboa 2y ago
  One thing is that in many cases recruiters cast a very wide net and can't distinguish competent from incompetent developers. This low signal-to-noise ratio means companies create increasingly more difficult interview processes to basically see if the people can actually code, in extremely artificial environments (LeetCode problems, etc). That means you lose out on people who are actually good if you just talked to them for 30 minutes, but got screened out because they didn't remember CS algorithms off the top of their mind after 15 years in the industry delivering actual products.
- marcosdumay 2y ago
  I tend to believe you are right... But neither one of us can tell it for sure. Notice that you have written a trademark on your comment? Only the people that work on that place get to know, or to decide if there will be a scam or not. They get full control of what's happening.
Lichtso 2y ago
If you mean people hired to hire other people, then yes, strongly agree. The entire thing is built on the assumption that your company will have a high turnover rate. That is something that should be avoided by employers as it for one increases the average compensation niveau faster than employee retention would and also constantly restarts opportunity costs as new employees take time to settle into their new roles. Yet, here we are and it is not only acceptable, but also standard procedure.

ukoki 2y ago

How is it a scam? If it was that bad nearly all companies would just use in-house recruiters Someone has to do the work of pestering software developers on LinkedIn. If the external recruiters didn't do it, companies would just do it themselves.

dlisboa 2y ago
One thing is that in many cases recruiters cast a very wide net and can't distinguish competent from incompetent developers. This low signal-to-noise ratio means companies create increasingly more difficult interview processes to basically see if the people can actually code, in extremely artificial environments (LeetCode problems, etc). That means you lose out on people who are actually good if you just talked to them for 30 minutes, but got screened out because they didn't remember CS algorithms off the top of their mind after 15 years in the industry delivering actual products.
marcosdumay 2y ago
I tend to believe you are right... But neither one of us can tell it for sure. Notice that you have written a trademark on your comment? Only the people that work on that place get to know, or to decide if there will be a scam or not. They get full control of what's happening.

Lichtso 2y ago

If you mean people hired to hire other people, then yes, strongly agree. The entire thing is built on the assumption that your company will have a high turnover rate. That is something that should be avoided by employers as it for one increases the average compensation niveau faster than employee retention would and also constantly restarts opportunity costs as new employees take time to settle into their new roles. Yet, here we are and it is not only acceptable, but also standard procedure.