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Karpathy is amazing. A rare combination of top tier technical chops with top tier communication skills, wrapped in a wholesome person. I am very excited for th

Karpathy is amazing. A rare combination of top tier technical chops with top tier communication skills, wrapped in a wholesome person. I am very excited for this and can't wait to try their products! As an aside, odd to see people here are so pessimistic about the idea. Education is hard to scale because tutors are hard to scale. ChatGPT is already an ad-hoc educator for me, in a similar jump that Wikipedia was. Having a purpose-built product with a hand-crafted curriculum, that's a killer idea.

wrsh07 2y ago
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- aleph_minus_one 2y ago
  > Hacker news famously hates on companies that have gone on to billion dollar successes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 It's still Hacker News. Many hackers (in the original meaning of the word) have a very different "technology taste" than the general population, and are very vocal about it.
  - wrsh07 2y ago
    My point is that people are saying weird / shitty things about karpathy (a noted hacker), and that's to be expected because hn just does this. Comments are not predictive of future business success etc
    - aleph_minus_one 2y ago
      > Comments are not predictive of future business success etc But the comments are somewhat predictive concerning whether the product will be liked or disliked by "hacking-minded" people. This is still very valuable because such people are typically intelligent, outspoken and (if the product seems to be interesting) early adopters of new software offerings.
      - Karrot_Kream 2y ago
        How does this align with the idea that HN misses billion dollar successes? Are you saying that there's some, albeit weak, predictive power in HN comments?
        aleph_minus_one 2y ago
        > Are you saying that there's some, albeit weak, predictive power in HN comments? I do claim that there is at least some (though far from perfect) predictive power whether a product or service will be liked or disliked by "hacking-minded" people. Also, because such people are sometime more vocal than the general population, I can imagine predictive power to exist whether some (planned) product or service will tend to cause controversies (in the future). But it should be obvious that this is all about a specific market segment and target audience: there exist quite a lot of commercially successful products and services for which are not particularly liked by hackers.
        Karrot_Kream 2y ago
        I only barely agree with you, but if you're coming up with this conclusion by looking at the quality of these comments then I don't know what to say. Thoughtless, low hanging critiques. Tangential rants. There's little salvageable here but if you think it's just "loud hackers", then idk what to say. The signal here is just too low. If that's what "loud hackers" say then I'd rather read Nextdoor.
      - wrsh07 2y ago
        Ok, I'm talking about this claim in the top level post: > As an aside, odd to see people here are so pessimistic about the idea I suspect people in the comments are pessimistic about the idea because 1) they've seen a lot of AI hype [1] or 2) they don't know who karpathy is. His YouTube videos (which are tutorials about AI) consistently garner praise from "hacking-minded" people (the first post of his I read was hackers guide to nn [2]) I don't think negative comments founded on those reasons have any predictive power about anything. [1] it's exhausting https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fucking-piledrive-you-if-you-mention-ai-again/ https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fucking-piledrive-you... [2] http://karpathy.github.io/neuralnets/ http://karpathy.github.io/neuralnets/
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aleph_minus_one 2y ago
> Hacker news famously hates on companies that have gone on to billion dollar successes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863 It's still Hacker News. Many hackers (in the original meaning of the word) have a very different "technology taste" than the general population, and are very vocal about it.
- wrsh07 2y ago
  My point is that people are saying weird / shitty things about karpathy (a noted hacker), and that's to be expected because hn just does this. Comments are not predictive of future business success etc
  - aleph_minus_one 2y ago
    > Comments are not predictive of future business success etc But the comments are somewhat predictive concerning whether the product will be liked or disliked by "hacking-minded" people. This is still very valuable because such people are typically intelligent, outspoken and (if the product seems to be interesting) early adopters of new software offerings.
    - Karrot_Kream 2y ago
      How does this align with the idea that HN misses billion dollar successes? Are you saying that there's some, albeit weak, predictive power in HN comments?
      - aleph_minus_one 2y ago
        > Are you saying that there's some, albeit weak, predictive power in HN comments? I do claim that there is at least some (though far from perfect) predictive power whether a product or service will be liked or disliked by "hacking-minded" people. Also, because such people are sometime more vocal than the general population, I can imagine predictive power to exist whether some (planned) product or service will tend to cause controversies (in the future). But it should be obvious that this is all about a specific market segment and target audience: there exist quite a lot of commercially successful products and services for which are not particularly liked by hackers.
        Karrot_Kream 2y ago
        I only barely agree with you, but if you're coming up with this conclusion by looking at the quality of these comments then I don't know what to say. Thoughtless, low hanging critiques. Tangential rants. There's little salvageable here but if you think it's just "loud hackers", then idk what to say. The signal here is just too low. If that's what "loud hackers" say then I'd rather read Nextdoor.
    - wrsh07 2y ago
      Ok, I'm talking about this claim in the top level post: > As an aside, odd to see people here are so pessimistic about the idea I suspect people in the comments are pessimistic about the idea because 1) they've seen a lot of AI hype [1] or 2) they don't know who karpathy is. His YouTube videos (which are tutorials about AI) consistently garner praise from "hacking-minded" people (the first post of his I read was hackers guide to nn [2]) I don't think negative comments founded on those reasons have any predictive power about anything. [1] it's exhausting https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fucking-piledrive-you-if-you-mention-ai-again/ https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fucking-piledrive-you... [2] http://karpathy.github.io/neuralnets/ http://karpathy.github.io/neuralnets/

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