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Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally; walked off-stage
- wtlkjzdfblk 2y ago[dead]
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- rvz 2y agobut why?
- sleepingreset 2y ago[flagged]
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- helf 2y agoThe parent poster isn't trying to subvert the entire governmental make up of this country.
- Tadpole9181 2y agoThat's clearly not what they mean, regardless if you agree or not. Seems fairly disingenuous to pretend like you don't understand why political assassinations of extremely contentious politicians happen.
- mardifoufs 2y agoBiden is also contentious for half of the US population, yet I'm not sure I'd understand if someone shot him. Even if you want a politician dead, surely you'd realize that missing your shot or anything else going wrong will just make said politician much, much stronger.
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 2y agoWhen you're deranged enough to do something like this, I don't think a lot of thought goes into what happens if you fail.
- mardifoufs 2y agoCompletely agree. That's basically what I wanted to say, that this isn't some person who's trying to save the US from an actual threat, because that's not really productive in the context of a US election. It's just a deranged shooter.
- mardifoufs 2y agoThe problem with that mindset is that the Republicans also have their own looneys who swear that Obama or Biden or whoever else will kill freedom and enact an autocracy. Saying so doesn't make it more true.
- dllthomas 2y agoThat doesn't make it not "why" - but also that "why" doesn't make it justified.
- mardifoufs 2y agoAgreed. I guess there's still a chance that the shooter is just an unhinged, mentally ill person with no political affiliations (like with Reagan) but there's probably a "why" otherwise.
- eclipticplane 2y agoNot sure I've seen too many 900-page long "dismantle modern life" documents from the Democrats.
- mardifoufs 2y agoNot sure Trump could write a 900 pages document about anything but sure? Unless Trump endorsed whatever that document is then sure. And yeah, shooting a presidential candidate because of some conspiracy theories that involve a president dismantling 'modern life' is unhinged. Unless modern life is a 4 year American political cycle. I remember the same doom posting back in 2016 so it really doesn't have much bite anymore, especially since I'm not American and not knee deep in the batshit rhetoric that permeate american politics
- heartbreak 2y agoThe thing about Project 2025 is that it’s not Trump. It was produced by people far, far more competent at enacting their policies.
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- sleepingreset 2y agothe ear is a lucky shot, and survivors of assassination attempts get a boost but this just conjecture
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- SergeAx 2y agohttps://www.youtube.com/live/1RgEu4Lzcts?t=510 https://www.youtube.com/live/1RgEu4Lzcts?t=510
- wumeow 2y agoI miss the end of history.
- cocacola1 2y agoAfter years of violent rhetoric and attacks like the one on Paul Pelosi, I doubt anyone is surprised.
- janalsncm 2y agoI don’t envy the Secret Service at all. Thousands of events and interactions that all have to be choreographed to protect politicians who by definition are not universally liked, in a country with more guns than people. Thankfully most people are not homicidal lunatics.
- kotaKat 2y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8474PcH-eXY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8474PcH-eXY The Secret Service boot camp instructor's introduction is a very humbling introduction. "You don't get 'a bad day' in the Secret Service. There's plenty of other pursuits out there. Noble pursuits - lawyers, plumbers, firemen, doctors. If one of those folks has a rough night the night before - stays out late - they have to deal with their boss, some kind of disciplinary action. If YOU 'have a bad day' and YOU don't do your job, you're going to change the world."
- cactusplant7374 2y agoSeems like hyperbole. I'm sure there are a lot of bad days where secret service are sleep deprived and nothing happens.
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- skissane 2y ago> The sound was just not sharp enough, Couldn't that just be some kind of distortion due to the way the microphones are set up, and whatever audio post-processing they may have doing? > and the way he touches his head after being shot was just weird, if it was a gun/bullet, it definitely was not a direct impact It looks to me like Trump got extremely lucky – an attempted headshot missed and the bullet grazed his ear.
- COGlory 2y ago>Couldn't that just be some kind of distortion due to the way the microphones are set up, and whatever audio post-processing they may have doing? Probably. If that's the case, the dramatic fistbump pose with the American flag while yelling "fight" was pretty incredible.
- Willingham 2y agoTrump immediately knew how good this was going to be for him in the upcoming election, His arm-pumping gesture is perfectly in line with his well known and highly egoic personality.
- skissane 2y agoHe was already reportedly telling friends that he has been receiving "gifts from the political gods". [0] If that's what he was thinking before this, what is he thinking now? [0] https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/trump-undecided-voters-plan-election-2024 https://www.axios.com/2024/07/10/trump-undecided-voters-plan...
- lamontcg 2y agoThe way he touches his ear actually looks perfectly normal for getting shot in the ear. He looks like he has no idea WTF just happened, which is more normal for getting shot IRL than what happens in the movies. It takes a while for the mind to catch up to reality and to process that the noise was gunshots and the pain is due to getting hit.
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- mtlmtlmtlmtl 2y agoIt's at times like these I question my choice to have showdead on...
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- NickC25 2y agoNothing good will come from this.
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- wyager 2y agoWe're good, thanks
- sanswork 2y agoHow can you look at the US compared to any other western country and honestly believe your current situation around guns is the ideal?
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- klyrs 2y agoYou don't get it, what about "make America great" implies that somebody thinks the country is in some "ideal" state? The answer to the guns problem is more guns. And if your main guy gets shot, that's just an excuse to start the civil war you've been prepping for all these years.
- tekknik 2y agoor, and more than likely, people want guns to ensure they’re not the victim, given police only respond to crimes that have already happened and rarely prevent crimes. this bigotry you have is why this happened today
- wyager 2y agoAustralia is an aberration (I can go into it in more detail if you'd like), but for the most part, the reason the US is (substantially) economically better off than most European countries (like the UK, where the GGP is from) is inextricably tied to the unique ethno-cultural characteristics (descended from a weird mish-mash of quakerism, scots-irish borderer culture, etc.) of the USA. Major relevant factors include a high degree of individualism, relatively high risk tolerance, relatively strong belief in property rights, etc. - all of which are coincident with a belief in and desire for public gun ownership. I look at the US and I see one of the richest, most successful, and most impactful countries in the world (and not through any sort of low-liquidity arbitrage like being a tax haven). Our crime rates are moderately higher than countries in similar wealth brackets, but this is entirely (and I mean, non-hyperbolically, entirely) attributable to factors besides our relatively high gun ownership rates.
- boring-alterego 2y agoNo matter how you spin this, it was a bad day and could have been a lot worse. You might hate the man but going out like that would not have been a good day for the US. It would go down like Bobby Kennedy as a dark milestone in our shared history. Happy it was a near miss instead of the reason for a state funeral.
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- jsbisviewtiful 2y agoDo you mean physically too far to the left for the shot? If you’re trying to frame this as a political comment it’s an odd comment. Additionally, the shooter has so far been identified as a registered Republican. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/13/donald-trump-shot-live-updates.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/13/donald-trump-shot-live-updat...
- talldatethrow 2y agoThat donated to Democrats.
- webninja 2y agoHe’s a Democrat donor that registered Republican likely to pick someone else during the primaries. Possibly because the Democratic establishment decided to (by some degree) “skip Democracy” by not holding a primary election to potentially replace Biden. Hence people that wanted to participate in the political process had to be Republican to participate in a primary election. It was my understanding at the time of posting before much pictures came out that the bullet and the aim was too far to the left which was the perfect line up for a politics joke. Similar jokes include [a person] is so far left or so far right that they can’t walk a straight line down a sidewalk without falling over.
- lamontcg 2y agoYou're hanging the idea that he was left-wing on a single $15 donation (made when he was 17 years old, over 3 years ago). He could have done that for any reason, including just trying to impress some girl he knew. > likely to pick someone else during the primaries The word "likely" is doing an awful lot of work here. I'm finding it more "likely" that the $15 donation happened before he fell into a right wing rabbit hole on YouTube (based on the guntuber t-shirt, I suspect his YouTube recommendations were a lot more right-leaning than left).
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- tim333 2y agoI wonder if >A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed could be reinterpreted with more emphasis on the well regulated bit. I mean it originates from the British bill of rights of 1689 >That the Subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defence suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law but in Britain we've mostly managed to regulate things a bit more.
- newfriend 2y agoOi, you got a loicense to post here mate?