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First coolify[1] and now Tau. More competition the better for users. From the quick look it seems like coolify is more fully featured? [1]: https://coolify.io

First coolify[1] and now Tau. More competition the better for users. From the quick look it seems like coolify is more fully featured? [1]: https://coolify.io/ https://coolify.io/

TechDebtDevin 2y ago
Coolify needs a lot of work imho.
- andruby 2y ago
  Do you mean it’s missing features or that it requires lots of maintenance and handholding? I’m evaluating some of the options for toy projects so I’m curious to read people’s experiences.
  - pif_ 2y ago
    It's still in beta (under active development), so for fairly serious projects it's not yet viable in production in my opinion. But I'm using it for two personal sites, and it works perfectly. It's exactly the kind of tool I was looking for: open source, self-hosting, easy to install, easy to use and well maintained.
  - TechDebtDevin 2y ago
    IMO it adds a bunch of complexity (as these types of catch all frontend solutions usually do) to a problem that can be easily solved by becoming proficient in using Docker/Podman and spending a little bit of time reading the documentation for the services you want to run. Its a cool idea but uncessary IMO. There are also a ton of people that like it and I'm just one opinion. I reccomend you try it but I also think you'll realize you could host that hobby project with half the hardware requirements and half the effort with something like docker-compose or swarm.
    - andruby 2y ago
      I’ve been using docker-compose on a vm for half a decade. Works very well with a reverse proxy + letsencrypt.
    - drekipus 2y ago
      I was paying cooler 5 dollars a month so I didn't have to worry about any of that. And for that it worked remarkably well
- dsamy 2y ago
  Especially when scaling beyond one server. The next Tau release will include `spore-drive`, a tool for deploying and updating on thousands of servers with a single command.
ffsm8 2y ago
Before Coolify came CapRover and dokku. My toy server (64ram, ryzen 5600G 60tb HDD, 4tb NVMe) is currently running fedora/caprover, though I've been considering just putting truenas scale on it, as it added custom deployments as well...
- udev4096 2y ago
  That's a beast server. What are you using it for?
  - ffsm8 2y ago
    It sounds bigger then it is, raid 10 cuts it in half after all (30tb HDD, 2tb NVMe) It's mostly just for the *arr stack, various self hosted services like vaultwarden, seafile etc and my personal toy projects. I.e. a pwa book reader along with the occasional dev tool I wanna experiment with.
    - Tiberium 2y ago
      What HDDs do you have for it to be 60TB in total?
      - ffsm8 2y ago
        6x6GB + 2x12gb
        NorwegianDude 2y ago
        Then you have 24 TB with RAID10, not 30 TB. I guess that's why he was wondering.
        ffsm8 2y ago
        Technically I've got 18tb raid 10 and 12TB raid 1, I just didn't think it mattered and I was too lazy to explain that on my phone ( • ‿ • ) The 6x6TB were previouly in a Synology NAS (roughly 8yrs old now) and I was planning to slowly migrate everything over to 12TB disk's as things start failing
dsamy 2y ago
It's a different approach. Coolify is a container management platform with CI/CD integration. Tau is meant for developers, and Git is the only way to make changes. Moreover, Tau can handle compute, storage, pub-sub, and more. Note that, besides CI/CD, Tau cannot orchestrate containers currently. So, being fully featured truly depends on your intended use case.
niieani 2y ago
Before coolify there was also exoframe[1] [1]: https://github.com/exoframejs/exoframe https://github.com/exoframejs/exoframe

First coolify[1] and now Tau. More competition the better for users. From the quick look it seems like coolify is more fully featured? [1]: https://coolify.io/ https://coolify.io/

TechDebtDevin 2y ago

Coolify needs a lot of work imho.

andruby 2y ago
Do you mean it’s missing features or that it requires lots of maintenance and handholding? I’m evaluating some of the options for toy projects so I’m curious to read people’s experiences.
- pif_ 2y ago
  It's still in beta (under active development), so for fairly serious projects it's not yet viable in production in my opinion. But I'm using it for two personal sites, and it works perfectly. It's exactly the kind of tool I was looking for: open source, self-hosting, easy to install, easy to use and well maintained.
- TechDebtDevin 2y ago
  IMO it adds a bunch of complexity (as these types of catch all frontend solutions usually do) to a problem that can be easily solved by becoming proficient in using Docker/Podman and spending a little bit of time reading the documentation for the services you want to run. Its a cool idea but uncessary IMO. There are also a ton of people that like it and I'm just one opinion. I reccomend you try it but I also think you'll realize you could host that hobby project with half the hardware requirements and half the effort with something like docker-compose or swarm.
  - andruby 2y ago
    I’ve been using docker-compose on a vm for half a decade. Works very well with a reverse proxy + letsencrypt.
  - drekipus 2y ago
    I was paying cooler 5 dollars a month so I didn't have to worry about any of that. And for that it worked remarkably well
dsamy 2y ago
Especially when scaling beyond one server. The next Tau release will include `spore-drive`, a tool for deploying and updating on thousands of servers with a single command.

ffsm8 2y ago

Before Coolify came CapRover and dokku. My toy server (64ram, ryzen 5600G 60tb HDD, 4tb NVMe) is currently running fedora/caprover, though I've been considering just putting truenas scale on it, as it added custom deployments as well...

udev4096 2y ago
That's a beast server. What are you using it for?
- ffsm8 2y ago
  It sounds bigger then it is, raid 10 cuts it in half after all (30tb HDD, 2tb NVMe) It's mostly just for the *arr stack, various self hosted services like vaultwarden, seafile etc and my personal toy projects. I.e. a pwa book reader along with the occasional dev tool I wanna experiment with.
  - Tiberium 2y ago
    What HDDs do you have for it to be 60TB in total?
    - ffsm8 2y ago
      6x6GB + 2x12gb
      - NorwegianDude 2y ago
        Then you have 24 TB with RAID10, not 30 TB. I guess that's why he was wondering.
        ffsm8 2y ago
        Technically I've got 18tb raid 10 and 12TB raid 1, I just didn't think it mattered and I was too lazy to explain that on my phone ( • ‿ • ) The 6x6TB were previouly in a Synology NAS (roughly 8yrs old now) and I was planning to slowly migrate everything over to 12TB disk's as things start failing

dsamy 2y ago

It's a different approach. Coolify is a container management platform with CI/CD integration. Tau is meant for developers, and Git is the only way to make changes. Moreover, Tau can handle compute, storage, pub-sub, and more. Note that, besides CI/CD, Tau cannot orchestrate containers currently. So, being fully featured truly depends on your intended use case.

niieani 2y ago

Before coolify there was also exoframe[1] [1]: https://github.com/exoframejs/exoframe https://github.com/exoframejs/exoframe