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I run Linux in a VM on my M1 mac all day long. That VM was the fastest Linux instance I had anywhere. Faster the my 5950 and way faster than anything in cloud.

I run Linux in a VM on my M1 mac all day long. That VM was the fastest Linux instance I had anywhere. Faster the my 5950 and way faster than anything in cloud. Your can't using it is your choice.

Rinzler89 2y ago
Sir, in the comment you're replying to, I was talking about the iPad here, not the Mac where you can indeed use most of the M chips potential while on the iPad you can't do that.
- sitkack 2y ago
  Look at such a fruitful branch of the conversation that you created! Did you think that would be an option when you bought it? Don't answer.
- jonas21 2y ago
  Do you not expect Apple to use the M4 in the next round of Mac refreshes?
g_p 2y ago
Out of interest, I assume this was an arm64 build of Linux? Which hypervisor or VM software did you use?
- seabrookmx 2y ago
  Not OP, but likely lima or colima if working with containers.
  - spockz 2y ago
    Is Lima or Colima so much better than docker desktop for Mac these days? In what respect, the performance?
    - seabrookmx 2y ago
      I don't have recent experience with Docker Desktop. Around the time they went commercial we still had lots of stability issues with it (eating memory and needing restarted) so we told their sales people to take a hike. We tried Rancher Desktop for a while but something with their docker-cli implementation didn't play nice with dev containers so our remaining Mac users jumped to colima. For my part I'd had enough of faking docker/containerd on a non-native platform so I'm daily driving Linux (Fedora on a Framework 13). No more VM's for me :)
- sitkack 2y ago
  Arm64 Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. VMWare Fusion (now free beer) and Podman. Still running the beta of Fusion which I have literally had zero issues with. I have not benchmarked podman. https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2024/05/fusion-pro-now-available-free-for-personal-use.html https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2024/05/fusion-pro-now-a... https://podman-desktop.io/docs/installation/macos-install https://podman-desktop.io/docs/installation/macos-install
  - effie 2y ago
    Was your VM running arm64 Linux on both Apple and AMD? On AMD cpu, performance of arm64 VM is expected to be poor, because it is a different architecture and "emulation" has to happen. Or do you actually compare to VM running amd64 Linux on the AMD processor?
    - sitkack 2y ago
      No, this is wall clock time for compiling ripgrep (Rust) and running stream. Both were optimized binaries for their respective platforms. https://github.com/jeffhammond/STREAM https://github.com/jeffhammond/STREAM

I run Linux in a VM on my M1 mac all day long. That VM was the fastest Linux instance I had anywhere. Faster the my 5950 and way faster than anything in cloud. Your can't using it is your choice.

Rinzler89 2y ago

Sir, in the comment you're replying to, I was talking about the iPad here, not the Mac where you can indeed use most of the M chips potential while on the iPad you can't do that.

sitkack 2y ago
Look at such a fruitful branch of the conversation that you created! Did you think that would be an option when you bought it? Don't answer.
jonas21 2y ago
Do you not expect Apple to use the M4 in the next round of Mac refreshes?

g_p 2y ago

Out of interest, I assume this was an arm64 build of Linux? Which hypervisor or VM software did you use?

seabrookmx 2y ago
Not OP, but likely lima or colima if working with containers.
- spockz 2y ago
  Is Lima or Colima so much better than docker desktop for Mac these days? In what respect, the performance?
  - seabrookmx 2y ago
    I don't have recent experience with Docker Desktop. Around the time they went commercial we still had lots of stability issues with it (eating memory and needing restarted) so we told their sales people to take a hike. We tried Rancher Desktop for a while but something with their docker-cli implementation didn't play nice with dev containers so our remaining Mac users jumped to colima. For my part I'd had enough of faking docker/containerd on a non-native platform so I'm daily driving Linux (Fedora on a Framework 13). No more VM's for me :)
sitkack 2y ago
Arm64 Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. VMWare Fusion (now free beer) and Podman. Still running the beta of Fusion which I have literally had zero issues with. I have not benchmarked podman. https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2024/05/fusion-pro-now-available-free-for-personal-use.html https://blogs.vmware.com/teamfusion/2024/05/fusion-pro-now-a... https://podman-desktop.io/docs/installation/macos-install https://podman-desktop.io/docs/installation/macos-install
- effie 2y ago
  Was your VM running arm64 Linux on both Apple and AMD? On AMD cpu, performance of arm64 VM is expected to be poor, because it is a different architecture and "emulation" has to happen. Or do you actually compare to VM running amd64 Linux on the AMD processor?
  - sitkack 2y ago
    No, this is wall clock time for compiling ripgrep (Rust) and running stream. Both were optimized binaries for their respective platforms. https://github.com/jeffhammond/STREAM https://github.com/jeffhammond/STREAM