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>> you seem to be saying that they are using two separate kernels, one for the bootloader and one for the final boot target This doesn't make sense. There's no

>> you seem to be saying that they are using two separate kernels, one for the bootloader and one for the final boot target This doesn't make sense. There's nothing in the post you responded to which could realistically be interpreted as making that point. And there haven't been any edits, which might have explained your confusion.

kragen 2y ago
the comment says 'they are proposing a bootloader, which can still let you modify the cmdline, (...) the bootloader is itself using the Linux kernel' possibly you don't know this, but in order to run a kernel with a modified command line, the bootloader-kernel would need to run a second kernel, for example using kexec; linux doesn't have a useful way to modify the command line of the running kernel. that's why i interpreted the comment as saying that they are proposing using two separate kernels. in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40910796 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40910796 comex clarifies that they are in fact proposing using two separate kernels; the reason i was confused is that that's not the only configuration they're proposing
- nmstoker 2y ago
  What I know or don't know is irrelevant, because what matters is that your statement rests of bringing in external knowledge/assumptions, so it's clearly not what the commenter is saying (alone).
  - mlvljr 2y ago
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  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    Using external knowledge to interpret the meaning of sentences is how every communication works.
    - nmstoker 2y ago
      Indeed, but accusing someone of saying something based on unstated external knowledge/assumptions is the original problem here. They just needed to say words to the effect of "taken with point X what you say implies Y" and it would be fine and much less accusatory.
      - Dylan16807 2y ago
        I don't find "it sounds like you're saying" on a rather neutral technical topic to be very accusatory, personally.
        nmstoker 2y ago
        Fair point. I should perhaps have said putting words in someone's mouth. Anyway far too much on this side point, I'll bow out here.

kragen 2y ago

the comment says 'they are proposing a bootloader, which can still let you modify the cmdline, (...) the bootloader is itself using the Linux kernel' possibly you don't know this, but in order to run a kernel with a modified command line, the bootloader-kernel would need to run a second kernel, for example using kexec; linux doesn't have a useful way to modify the command line of the running kernel. that's why i interpreted the comment as saying that they are proposing using two separate kernels. in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40910796 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40910796 comex clarifies that they are in fact proposing using two separate kernels; the reason i was confused is that that's not the only configuration they're proposing

nmstoker 2y ago
What I know or don't know is irrelevant, because what matters is that your statement rests of bringing in external knowledge/assumptions, so it's clearly not what the commenter is saying (alone).
- mlvljr 2y ago
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- Dylan16807 2y ago
  Using external knowledge to interpret the meaning of sentences is how every communication works.
  - nmstoker 2y ago
    Indeed, but accusing someone of saying something based on unstated external knowledge/assumptions is the original problem here. They just needed to say words to the effect of "taken with point X what you say implies Y" and it would be fine and much less accusatory.
    - Dylan16807 2y ago
      I don't find "it sounds like you're saying" on a rather neutral technical topic to be very accusatory, personally.
      - nmstoker 2y ago
        Fair point. I should perhaps have said putting words in someone's mouth. Anyway far too much on this side point, I'll bow out here.