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I don't know if you visited Philip Morris web page [1] lately, but from the content side it talks about smoke-free future, are they playing a two side play to c

by wslh 2y ago

I don't know if you visited Philip Morris web page [1] lately, but from the content side it talks about smoke-free future, are they playing a two side play to confuse people about their real intents? [1] https://www.pmi.com/ https://www.pmi.com/

bowsamic 2y ago
It’s just greenwashing but for tobacco
DiscourseFan 2y ago
Corporations, as entities, don't often act to their own detriment. The people in them, trapped, often, in moral contradiction, will find ways of expressing their discomfort in ways that are profitable for the corporation. Somebody working their could genuinely believe they are doing their best to help others, because considering the alternative might cost them their job.
leononame 2y ago
Sounds Line they're trying to get into vapes or some other alternatives to smoking. If I had to take a wild guess, it's not because they "should", as they put it, but because they've seen the writing on the wall. Smoking is on the way out in the long run and best be prepared when the time comes. By positioning themselves like this, they gain _some_ credibility. Don't know how reliable the research they fund is going to be, but I'd be wary of any tobacco/smoking substitute regardless
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Once weed is federally legal I'd guess they'll be big into that.
  - bastawhiz 2y ago
    Huge. They already are. It turns out that a lot of people don't smoke simply because they don't like cigarettes.
- deleted 2y ago
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- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
  If nothing else, smoking is fraught with regulation, but it is comparatively the Wild West for vaping. When is the last time you saw Joe Camel or the Marlboro Man?
- 0xcde4c3db 2y ago
  The hot new thing is apparently "nicotine pouches" (Zyn being the big brand in the US), which are sort of like the "clean" equivalent of chewing tobacco in the same sense that vapes are the "clean" version of cigarettes.
ncr100 2y ago
So "blue" - looks like sky. When the truth is a sickly sticky brown, tar stained lung. Neat / sad how colors in marketing can impact sentiment.
riffic 2y ago
they're under a consent decree if I'm not mistaken from a lot of lawsuits that took place in the 80s and 90s. big tobacco also funds organizations like Truth, which put out anti-smoking advertisements that really look and feel like a reverse-psychological smoking advertisements in a way (apologies for the dose of conspiratorial tin-foil in this thread). EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Master_Settlement_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Master_Settlement_Agre...

by wslh 2y ago

bowsamic 2y ago

It’s just greenwashing but for tobacco

DiscourseFan 2y ago

Corporations, as entities, don't often act to their own detriment. The people in them, trapped, often, in moral contradiction, will find ways of expressing their discomfort in ways that are profitable for the corporation. Somebody working their could genuinely believe they are doing their best to help others, because considering the alternative might cost them their job.

leononame 2y ago

Sounds Line they're trying to get into vapes or some other alternatives to smoking. If I had to take a wild guess, it's not because they "should", as they put it, but because they've seen the writing on the wall. Smoking is on the way out in the long run and best be prepared when the time comes. By positioning themselves like this, they gain _some_ credibility. Don't know how reliable the research they fund is going to be, but I'd be wary of any tobacco/smoking substitute regardless

SoftTalker 2y ago
Once weed is federally legal I'd guess they'll be big into that.
- bastawhiz 2y ago
  Huge. They already are. It turns out that a lot of people don't smoke simply because they don't like cigarettes.
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0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
If nothing else, smoking is fraught with regulation, but it is comparatively the Wild West for vaping. When is the last time you saw Joe Camel or the Marlboro Man?
0xcde4c3db 2y ago
The hot new thing is apparently "nicotine pouches" (Zyn being the big brand in the US), which are sort of like the "clean" equivalent of chewing tobacco in the same sense that vapes are the "clean" version of cigarettes.

ncr100 2y ago

So "blue" - looks like sky. When the truth is a sickly sticky brown, tar stained lung. Neat / sad how colors in marketing can impact sentiment.

riffic 2y ago

they're under a consent decree if I'm not mistaken from a lot of lawsuits that took place in the 80s and 90s. big tobacco also funds organizations like Truth, which put out anti-smoking advertisements that really look and feel like a reverse-psychological smoking advertisements in a way (apologies for the dose of conspiratorial tin-foil in this thread). EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Master_Settlement_Agreement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_Master_Settlement_Agre...