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It’d be nice to have a fair use tool, identifying when copyrighted music is a fair use.
by teeray 2y ago
It’d be nice to have a fair use tool, identifying when copyrighted music is a fair use.
- mikae1 2y agoFair use doesn't exist in many jurisdictions (where artists may come from). I would assume carpet bombing is easier than surgery.
- mananaysiempre 2y agoFair use may not exist, but rights of citation or parody still do.
- mike_d 2y agoNo they don't. https://seanmiller.us/blog/parody-laws-by-country/ https://seanmiller.us/blog/parody-laws-by-country/
- ricardobayes 2y agoI know a few small youtubers who make "walk around" live-stream type videos and they always struggle with music from bars etc. It's always kind of funny when they attempt to talk over the music or start walking faster. Kind of sad how megacorporations can affect our behavior. I hope this won't spill over to a general deterioration or avoidance of music. People are really good at copying behavior they see from people they see as "authoritative figures" and influencers are that, for young people.
- Waterluvian 2y agoI feel like if any meaningful amount of society adopted a “avoid copyrighted music” behaviour, the problem would resolve itself pretty fast.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoOh my, now I'm imagining a hipster bar that uses "only playing non-copyrighted music" as a way to incentivize all the wannabe youtubers and instagrammers and tiktokers to record their content there.
- Waterluvian 2y agoHuman music!
- Forgeties79 2y agoBoop boop boop. Boop boop boop. Boop boop boop.
- teeray 2y agoThere is a brewery near me that plays only Grateful Dead and anything before 19-whatever-it-is to avoid needing a license to “perform” it.
- spankalee 2y agoThat roughly amounts to "avoid all recorded music" right now. If you don't like music, sure... but I'm not willing to be that ascetic.
- Waterluvian 2y agoNo, the opposite. If people in large numbers are avoiding music, then the industry will behave better about copyright. They want people to listen to music.
- talldayo 2y ago> If people in large numbers are avoiding music, then the industry will behave better about copyright. Has there ever been a significant point in history where this has happened? It feels like the opposite happens; when people conscientiously object to the music industry, said industry doubles down on their authority to control music. Radio license agreements, home taping, internet-distribution and now the YouTube/social media era are all punctuated by license-holders reaffirming their control, fair use and popularity be damned.
- geor9e 2y agoIt would be nice to have free AGI lawyers, agreed
- realusername 2y agoYouTube doesn't respect fair use anyways in any country.
- teeray 2y agoBecause copyright holders hate Fair Use
- JoshTriplett 2y agoWhich would be irrelevant except YouTube's copyright strike system is effectively run by the copyright holders, and thus goes far further than the law requires.
- crazygringo 2y agoThat's not really possible, because there are a lot of contextual factors that go into fair use that ultimately depend on what a jury would decide. I.e. a tool would have to ascertain whether a clip of music in a larger video was being used as part of film criticism (allowed) or as musical accompaniment to a comedy scene (not allowed). Even in a film criticism clip, the music is allowed if it's part of the analysis, but not if it's used as "branding". So that distinction simply can't be made by a tool, not even with current AI. Heck, in important enough situations that are gray areas, people go to court and it takes a jury to decide.
- jefftk 2y ago> That's not really possible, ... a tool would have to ascertain My guess is you could build an AI + limited human review tool that would do it better than the 75th percentile lawyer. But there's not much reason for YouTube to invest in this.
- genewitch 2y agoand when >50% of pop songs have the same 4 note progression i'm not entirely sure what would be accomplished, in the general sense. I'm not sure where i heard it, but it was back when i was composing nearly full time: "All notes have already been played in every order." Merely adding rests or lengthening or shortening notes or adding effects doesn't "fix" anything about the underlying problem. Meanwhile "Old Town Road" was made by "buying" the "rights" to an instrumental track that was created by Trent Reznor, but Trent Reznor had to be told that someone was using Ghosts 34. IIRC the "beat" was "bought" for less than a meal at a fast food restaurant, not from Reznor (or NIN, or Nothing Records, etc). I made $0 after spending about a decade composing, writing, arranging over 4 solo albums and an additional 6 albums with another person. One thing of note, though, was the "Napster Bad" metallica workaround on file sharing apps was to change the name of the band... to our band name. We didn't stand a chance.