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I'm not sure if cars use more energy than LLMs; huge "citation needed" there. But for the sake of argument, let's assume that they do. Cars use more energy tha
by nunez 2y ago
I'm not sure if cars use more energy than LLMs; huge "citation needed" there. But for the sake of argument, let's assume that they do.
Cars use more energy than LLMs because most of the world is built around requiring a car to get to places.
It's not that we don't mind it; quite the contrary, in fact, as we're always reminded of when the price of gas/petrol shoots upwards.
When the cost of living forces you to live 45 minutes away from your job by car because living within walking distance is astronomical, many folks are conditioned to want a house with a garage "for the kids" because apartments are "for the poor," and EVs, in their current state, are not financially feasible yet (though that is changing!), it's more that we're forced to tolerate it.
- stavros 2y agoThat's about the cost of energy, not about the consumption. If you don't think the cost of gas is worth it, you don't use a car. If you don't think the cost of electricity is worth it, you don't use an LLM. It's literally priced in. I know people don't mind the cost relative to the value they're getting, because if they did, they wouldn't use LLMs.
- freejazz 2y agoIs the consumption priced into LLMs? Seems like the free ones are losing money, surely they aren't using no energy.
- stavros 2y agoThere aren't LLMs that are free to run.
- freejazz 2y agoAre you giving my post a fair reading or are you trying to state that there are no LLMs that cost nothing to run? I'm referencing the LLMs that let me query them at no cost... It'd seem as if you didn't read my post at all if you thought I was making reference to something else.
- stavros 2y agoYes, those LLMs still cost someone something.
- freejazz 2y agoI know, did you even read my post?? "Surely they aren't using no energy"
- stavros 2y agoI don't know how clear you meant to be, but it's two sentences. You may want to elaborate, because all I can see in your post is you attacking a straw man of "I can use ChatGPT for free, therefore it must use no energy, which MAKES NO SENSE".
- freejazz 2y agoAre you autistic or something? You're lack of self-awareness is astounding.