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This is the question. All the ethical concerns are almost superfluous if the provider knows how much they're gonna earn, at a minimum, before they accept the gi

This is the question. All the ethical concerns are almost superfluous if the provider knows how much they're gonna earn, at a minimum, before they accept the gig. It's either worth it to them or it isn't. If anything shoud be a regulation, this feels like the one to add: platform opportunities must estimate and prominently display the estimated time to complete the task and the minimum payout after platform fees.

astrange 2y ago
Uber doesn't do that because the drivers wouldn't take ones they don't like. Remember, consumers are using platform apps like Uber because they don't trust the drivers on the other side.
- tbrownaw 2y ago
  > Remember, consumers are using platform apps like Uber because they don't trust the drivers on the other side. Oh, I thought it was because "push button to summon car" is, like, super convenient.
  - EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
    That too, but taxi drivers are indeed among the most notorious for scams.
  - astrange 2y ago
    There were taxi apps before Uber and they didn't work because the taxi drivers wouldn't reliably come.
- imtringued 2y ago
  People use platforms because it would be very silly to have an app on the play store for each driver.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
    And yet, I almost wonder if that would not be a better system overall.
  - astrange 2y ago
    If there was a driver you trusted then you could text them or their taxi dispatcher. The problem is they won't come, will scam you, won't take you to a poor neighborhood, etc.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
  Uber solves one part of the equation. As I have recently learned, ride sharing apps just allow you to get in touch with the customer. In some countries, apparently, the drive will 'work with rider' outside app control. It is a weird cat and mouse game.
- gabesullice 2y ago
  Hence the regulation would force Uber (and ultimately the customer) to make it worth their while.
- Aurornis 2y ago
  > Remember, consumers are using platform apps like Uber because they don't trust the drivers on the other side. I don’t understand where these complex theories about ride sharing apps come from. People use Uber because it’s easy and it’s an app. Taxis did not have a universal app at the time. If you talk to young Uber users, chances are they wouldn’t actually know how to call a traditional taxi if you asked. It’s either Uber or Lyft because those are the apps they’ve heard about. Also, it’s common for drivers to work for both Uber and Lyft at different points, maybe the same time. There’s no real element of trust difference between the two options.

astrange 2y ago

Uber doesn't do that because the drivers wouldn't take ones they don't like. Remember, consumers are using platform apps like Uber because they don't trust the drivers on the other side.

tbrownaw 2y ago
> Remember, consumers are using platform apps like Uber because they don't trust the drivers on the other side. Oh, I thought it was because "push button to summon car" is, like, super convenient.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y ago
  That too, but taxi drivers are indeed among the most notorious for scams.
- astrange 2y ago
  There were taxi apps before Uber and they didn't work because the taxi drivers wouldn't reliably come.
imtringued 2y ago
People use platforms because it would be very silly to have an app on the play store for each driver.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
  And yet, I almost wonder if that would not be a better system overall.
- astrange 2y ago
  If there was a driver you trusted then you could text them or their taxi dispatcher. The problem is they won't come, will scam you, won't take you to a poor neighborhood, etc.
A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
Uber solves one part of the equation. As I have recently learned, ride sharing apps just allow you to get in touch with the customer. In some countries, apparently, the drive will 'work with rider' outside app control. It is a weird cat and mouse game.
gabesullice 2y ago
Hence the regulation would force Uber (and ultimately the customer) to make it worth their while.
Aurornis 2y ago
> Remember, consumers are using platform apps like Uber because they don't trust the drivers on the other side. I don’t understand where these complex theories about ride sharing apps come from. People use Uber because it’s easy and it’s an app. Taxis did not have a universal app at the time. If you talk to young Uber users, chances are they wouldn’t actually know how to call a traditional taxi if you asked. It’s either Uber or Lyft because those are the apps they’ve heard about. Also, it’s common for drivers to work for both Uber and Lyft at different points, maybe the same time. There’s no real element of trust difference between the two options.