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Apple bows to Kremlin pressure to remove leading VPNs from Russian AppStore

55 points by belter 2y ago

lnxg33k1 2y ago
Apple's full control of their app store is nothing for security, but great for regimes
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  Not a problem because iOS users can just sideload VPN apps of their choice ... oh wait they can't. Tell us again how Apple's tight restrictive control over iOS is good for YOUR security.
  - unsupp0rted 2y ago
    There is currently no law in Russia that forces people to buy Apple products.
    - Rinzler89 2y ago
      How does that help existing Apple owners in Russia? Wouldn't it be better if all phones had side loading capability by default?
      - unsupp0rted 2y ago
        > How does that help existing Apple owners in Russia? Existing Apple owners in Russia intentionally bought a hyper-expensive phone with no side-loading. They had 99 options and of those they selected the one that costs a significant multiple of a monthly salary. > Wouldn't it be better if all phones had side loading capability by default? No, because I want to buy a phone that doesn't have side loading capability by default, so I choose Apple phones. The more doors you build into a system, the more likely someone is to use one of them with ease, maliciously.
- belter 2y ago
  The Ukrainian War would finish in a week, if everybody would stop buying anything produced by the Western Companies still doing business in Russia. "Stop Doing Business with Russia" - https://leave-russia.org/ https://leave-russia.org/
  - lnxg33k1 2y ago
    That's a great website, I didn't know it, thanks!
  - jasonvorhe 2y ago
    World peace would happen tomorrow if no one showed up for any of our rulers wars - and yet here we are.
    - mathgradthrow 2y ago
      A lot of people actually want to fight.
      - jasonvorhe 2y ago
        Do you really think so? In my experience most people just want to live their lives, do their thing. I don't think people would be fighting each other as much if it wasn't for the constant "see what these people/nations/terrorists are doing" reporting in the media.
  - leereeves 2y ago
    What's the point of listing Chinese companies on that site? China is supporting Russia.
    - belter 2y ago
      It's about stopping to do Business with Russia. Chinese companies would drop Putin support within 24 hours, if it would hurt their pocket.
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2Gkashmiri 2y ago
And yet Mozilla was publicly humilated for "not standing up to dictators".
- talldayo 2y ago
  Tacit rule for Hacker News: when Mozilla, Microsoft or Google do x, it is characteristically bad and going to destroy their stock overnight. When Apple does x, it's actually a really good feature or smart administrative decision that their competitors could never hope to match. Rinse and repeat until you reach the "but ALL companies are bad then!" point. And we call ourselves "Hacker" news...
ChrisArchitect 2y ago
[dupe] Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40873349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40873349
frank_bb 2y ago
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blitzar 2y ago
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55 points by belter 2y ago

lnxg33k1 2y ago

Apple's full control of their app store is nothing for security, but great for regimes

Rinzler89 2y ago
Not a problem because iOS users can just sideload VPN apps of their choice ... oh wait they can't. Tell us again how Apple's tight restrictive control over iOS is good for YOUR security.
- unsupp0rted 2y ago
  There is currently no law in Russia that forces people to buy Apple products.
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    How does that help existing Apple owners in Russia? Wouldn't it be better if all phones had side loading capability by default?
    - unsupp0rted 2y ago
      > How does that help existing Apple owners in Russia? Existing Apple owners in Russia intentionally bought a hyper-expensive phone with no side-loading. They had 99 options and of those they selected the one that costs a significant multiple of a monthly salary. > Wouldn't it be better if all phones had side loading capability by default? No, because I want to buy a phone that doesn't have side loading capability by default, so I choose Apple phones. The more doors you build into a system, the more likely someone is to use one of them with ease, maliciously.
belter 2y ago
The Ukrainian War would finish in a week, if everybody would stop buying anything produced by the Western Companies still doing business in Russia. "Stop Doing Business with Russia" - https://leave-russia.org/ https://leave-russia.org/
- lnxg33k1 2y ago
  That's a great website, I didn't know it, thanks!
- jasonvorhe 2y ago
  World peace would happen tomorrow if no one showed up for any of our rulers wars - and yet here we are.
  - mathgradthrow 2y ago
    A lot of people actually want to fight.
    - jasonvorhe 2y ago
      Do you really think so? In my experience most people just want to live their lives, do their thing. I don't think people would be fighting each other as much if it wasn't for the constant "see what these people/nations/terrorists are doing" reporting in the media.
- leereeves 2y ago
  What's the point of listing Chinese companies on that site? China is supporting Russia.
  - belter 2y ago
    It's about stopping to do Business with Russia. Chinese companies would drop Putin support within 24 hours, if it would hurt their pocket.

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2Gkashmiri 2y ago

And yet Mozilla was publicly humilated for "not standing up to dictators".

talldayo 2y ago
Tacit rule for Hacker News: when Mozilla, Microsoft or Google do x, it is characteristically bad and going to destroy their stock overnight. When Apple does x, it's actually a really good feature or smart administrative decision that their competitors could never hope to match. Rinse and repeat until you reach the "but ALL companies are bad then!" point. And we call ourselves "Hacker" news...

ChrisArchitect 2y ago

[dupe] Some more discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40873349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40873349

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