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I interpreted it as “there’s such a big difference between artillery and a handgun you clearly have never been around an actual gun being fired before” Still s

I interpreted it as “there’s such a big difference between artillery and a handgun you clearly have never been around an actual gun being fired before” Still snarky, but there is a point.

jrflowers 2y ago
How does saying “you should expose yourself to both things if you possibly can” express that there is a difference between the two? I suppose I can imagine that GP said that you can feel the difference between levels of brain damage incurred (they did not), but even if that were the case then why would you encourage someone to expose themselves to artillery if you thought the damage was more than zero? “The damage from both is different but also zero if you zig zag check mate 8-)”
- financltravsty 2y ago
  "It's hard to describe the difference"
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  - jrflowers 2y ago
    “The difference” in brain damage? Between two things he suggests doing?
    - p51-remorse 2y ago
      I’m only going to engage with you once, because I think you’re being deliberately obtuse in your comments. The following is in case you’re being genuine, and for other’s benefit: There are several orders of magnitude difference between a 9mm handgun and a small artillery round. The difference is in terms of concussive force. If you shoot a handgun with earplugs in, you hear a pop that sounds kind of like dropping a small ball bearing on a wood floor. You feel a shock in your wrists and a bit in your elbows, like high-fiving someone. Now, you stand a few yards from artillery - and I’m talking Korean war artillery, not modern stuff. Also not talking about reenactment stuff; they usually just put a bit of black powder in there. I’m talking about small tow-behind artillery that you’d see at the Big Sandy Shoot (Google it). You _feel_ the sound before you hear it. You’ll look for some shooting muffs to put on _over_ your earplugs. The concussive force comes through the ground, through the air, moves through your head and stimulates your eardrums from the backside. You feel your guts vibrate a bit. It feels like the ground moved under you, like you’re landing after jumping in the air. And _that_ is an order of magnitude or so below what we’re talking about with SEALs here - those guys are placing explosive with a sticky backing on doors, and torching it off from not very far away. There’s stories from them of not being able to get physically “far enough” from a charge, and having to detonate it anyway because you’re in a freaking war zone. When a SEAL says “oh, this is going to fucking suck” before pushing a button, you know it’s real.
      - jrflowers 2y ago
        Aside from your advice to find an opportunity to expose oneself to the concussive force of artillery fire, it appears that you meant to answer “no” to this question: > Could this problem also be affecting civilian gun enthusiasts? Since you are clear that you do not think that civilian gun enthusiasts could be affected because they > shoot a handgun with earplugs in I thank you for your service for sharing your advice on how to become invulnerable to gun fire. Without that I might have doubted your expertise on this issue of brain damage from concussive force
jrflowers 2y ago
What did GP say about brain damage at all? Downthread he mentions people shooting 9mm pistols with hearing protection and navy SEALS as if they are the only two groups while not mentioning brain damage at all. Aside from the cavalier “I know something you don’t” there was nothing of any value posted.

I interpreted it as “there’s such a big difference between artillery and a handgun you clearly have never been around an actual gun being fired before” Still snarky, but there is a point.

jrflowers 2y ago

How does saying “you should expose yourself to both things if you possibly can” express that there is a difference between the two? I suppose I can imagine that GP said that you can feel the difference between levels of brain damage incurred (they did not), but even if that were the case then why would you encourage someone to expose themselves to artillery if you thought the damage was more than zero? “The damage from both is different but also zero if you zig zag check mate 8-)”

financltravsty 2y ago
"It's hard to describe the difference"
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- jrflowers 2y ago
  “The difference” in brain damage? Between two things he suggests doing?
  - p51-remorse 2y ago
    I’m only going to engage with you once, because I think you’re being deliberately obtuse in your comments. The following is in case you’re being genuine, and for other’s benefit: There are several orders of magnitude difference between a 9mm handgun and a small artillery round. The difference is in terms of concussive force. If you shoot a handgun with earplugs in, you hear a pop that sounds kind of like dropping a small ball bearing on a wood floor. You feel a shock in your wrists and a bit in your elbows, like high-fiving someone. Now, you stand a few yards from artillery - and I’m talking Korean war artillery, not modern stuff. Also not talking about reenactment stuff; they usually just put a bit of black powder in there. I’m talking about small tow-behind artillery that you’d see at the Big Sandy Shoot (Google it). You _feel_ the sound before you hear it. You’ll look for some shooting muffs to put on _over_ your earplugs. The concussive force comes through the ground, through the air, moves through your head and stimulates your eardrums from the backside. You feel your guts vibrate a bit. It feels like the ground moved under you, like you’re landing after jumping in the air. And _that_ is an order of magnitude or so below what we’re talking about with SEALs here - those guys are placing explosive with a sticky backing on doors, and torching it off from not very far away. There’s stories from them of not being able to get physically “far enough” from a charge, and having to detonate it anyway because you’re in a freaking war zone. When a SEAL says “oh, this is going to fucking suck” before pushing a button, you know it’s real.
    - jrflowers 2y ago
      Aside from your advice to find an opportunity to expose oneself to the concussive force of artillery fire, it appears that you meant to answer “no” to this question: > Could this problem also be affecting civilian gun enthusiasts? Since you are clear that you do not think that civilian gun enthusiasts could be affected because they > shoot a handgun with earplugs in I thank you for your service for sharing your advice on how to become invulnerable to gun fire. Without that I might have doubted your expertise on this issue of brain damage from concussive force

jrflowers 2y ago

What did GP say about brain damage at all? Downthread he mentions people shooting 9mm pistols with hearing protection and navy SEALS as if they are the only two groups while not mentioning brain damage at all. Aside from the cavalier “I know something you don’t” there was nothing of any value posted.