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Safari is today's Internet Explorer.
by oceanstone 2y ago
Safari is today's Internet Explorer.
- meiraleal 2y agoIt is so annoying to have Apple blocking many features that would improve web components, service workers, PWAs.
- Angostura 2y agoSafari supports PWAs and service workers
- Dachande663 2y agoIn name only. There are multiple frustrations encountered when actually trying to use them.
- leptons 2y agoNot just that, but forbidding any other browser engine on iOS and forcing Safari as the only browser allowed on the platform is completely abusive and anti-competitive. It's one of many reasons Apple is getting sued by the DOJ.
- askonomm 2y agoiOS 17.4 and later allow using other browser engines, so this isn't true anymore.
- oceanstone 2y agoApple blocks other browser engines on iOS, except in the EU.
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- afavour 2y agoOnly in the EU. Highlighting that that the only reason they’ve changed their mind is because of regulatory pressure. Android allowed alternative engines on day one, iOS allows it, what, 17 years after launch? It’s still fair to criticise Apple for the time it took and the extra lengths they’ve gone to in order to only allow it where they’ve been forced.
- craigds 2y ago... in the EU only.
- jshier 2y agoNo other iOS browser engines have been approved, or even exist at this point. Probably won't see any real alternative browsers in the EU until they finish the rumored WebBrowserKit or whatever, to help contain JIT services.
- dagmx 2y agoDepends how you slice it. Chrome is today’s Internet Explorer both in terms of market share, and use of non standard features to push a companies dominance. Safari is today’s Internet explorer in terms of being bundled with systems as a requirement. Ultimately, these analogies trivialize the actual state of the browser ecosystem in the 90s and early 2000s, because the computing landscape was so different.
- godzillabrennus 2y agoChrome manifest v3 feels like Google bundled a browser with spyware. Safari feels like they bundled a browser with an operating system.
- talldayo 2y agoSure would be funny if those operating systems were spyware too. But definitely not. Google, Facebook, Dropbox, Yahoo, Microsoft, AOL And Apple all care about our privacy too much: https://techcrunch.com/2013/06/06/google-facebook-apple-deny-participation-in-nsa-prism-program/ https://techcrunch.com/2013/06/06/google-facebook-apple-deny...
- dagmx 2y agoThe claim there was never about the OS being spyware though so that link feels like a stretch even then. It’s always been about server and infrastructure access. But beyond that, the Prism leaks mostly applied to telecoms. A lot of conspiracy minded folks failed to see the forest for the trees because they failed to grok the entire infrastructure between the device in their homes and the greater world. It’s much easier to think the device in your hand is betraying oneself than to think about the immense number of other components like telecoms, servers, MitM etc that comprise modern communication.
- talldayo 2y agoWell duh. Apple admits as much in China, of course they do that in the US too: https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754 https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754 But those are parlor tricks. Yes, the United States forces Apple and Microsoft to turn over data on a regular basis; everyone from India to Brazil demands the same thing. It's non-unique. The United States and it's FIVE-EYES partners clearly have more capabilities on the table; they literally control these businesses, up to a certain point. If you're unwilling to acquit telecoms and server providers for installing backdoors, then it's a no-brainer to implicate Microsoft, Google and Apple for knowledgeably shipping compromised client software too.
- jojobas 2y agoApple appstore is today's internet explorer.
- afavour 2y agoIt isn’t. That’s a vast oversimplification. I say this as someone endlessly frustrated with the way Apple treats the web.